T For Illegal Jerseys?

[Spence]

Originally Posted by Spence

I was at the AAU national tourney yesterday. In at least two games the game started with multiple FTs being shot due to the opponent having illegal jerseys. I think the issue is they were not white.

I haven't officiated in a few years so I went looking for any wording on that in my old books. Can't find it.

One game started with 10 FTs and the other started with 16 FTs.

Can someone give me some clarity on what may have occurred.

Thanks

I did find something online from 2013. Says it's a direct T to the coach. I assume it's only 1 T regardless of how many illegal jerseys, correct?

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by Spence

I did find something online from 2013. Says it's a direct T to the coach. I assume it's only 1 T regardless of how many illegal jerseys, correct?

Correct, as per 10-5-4.
PENALTY says, "Only one techinical foul is charged regardless the number of offenders.
Bad part for the violating team is that it's a direct on the coach, so when you ask, "Are your players properly and legally equipped?" and he says "Yes", and they're not. . . .

[Spence]

Originally Posted by Freddy

Correct, as per 10-5-4.
PENALTY says, "Only one techinical foul is charged regardless the number of offenders.
Bad part for the violating team is that it's a direct on the coach, so when you ask, "Are your players properly and legally equipped?" and he says "Yes", and they're not. . . .

Thanks. Same in college? I ask because I think this tourney was using college rules.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by Spence

Thanks. Same in college? I ask because I think this tourney was using college rules.

Others can best answer that correctly.

[Smitty]

They gave a crap about illegal jerseys in an AAU tourney? Yikes.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by Smitty

They gave a crap about illegal jerseys in an AAU tourney? Yikes.

If so, there might be hope for the world yet.

Originally Posted by Smitty

They gave a crap about illegal jerseys in an AAU tourney? Yikes.

Originally Posted by Freddy

If so, there might be hope for the world yet.

I wouldn't give a crap either. The only games that officially use NFHS rules are produced by those schools and organizations which pay to be members. All other games simply use them as "general basketball rules". AAU wants to play, not fuss over illegal numbers.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Smitty

They gave a crap about illegal jerseys in an AAU tourney? Yikes.

If it's a national tournament, most definitely.

We can't complain when AAU is rag tag, then complain if they care about the rules. (Even though they enforced it wrong)

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

If it's a national tournament, most definitely.

We can't complain when AAU is rag tag, then complain if they care about the rules. (Even though they enforced it wrong)

Is there some directive to give a T for this? I have yet to ever have anyone in AAU make any complaint or suggestion that this should be called. Maybe at the national tournament it is an issue, but every other tournament I see many jerseys that are not exactly illegal if we go be the rules standard.

And yes I am an expert with all the crap the IHSA put us through with jerseys.

Peace

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by PG_Ref

When the rule first changed, the penalty was free throws for each violation. The change to only one direct T to the head coach occurred a couple of seasons ago. Maybe these officials didn't get that memo.

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

If it's a national tournament, most definitely.

We can't complain when AAU is rag tag, then complain if they care about the rules. (Even though they enforced it wrong)

Or perhaps they read and followed the rules for the tournament they were working and did it correctly. As fellow officials, you should know to get the right information before you criticize.

[PG_Ref]

Originally Posted by Spence

I did find something online from 2013. Says it's a direct T to the coach. I assume it's only 1 T regardless of how many illegal jerseys, correct?

When the rule first changed, the penalty was free throws for each violation. The change to only one direct T to the head coach occurred a couple of seasons ago. Maybe these officials didn't get that memo.