Slight lapse of focus....

Originally Posted by just another ref

The example given is at the beginning of the game. Why would that not apply if it happened at some other point? What do you do if you discover in the midst of the proceedings that the teams are going the wrong way and you don't know when they started?

If I somehow have a brain aneurysm and allow the teams to start going the opposite way during the middle of a half, I doubt my brain would be functional enough to remember the example.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by AremRed

If I somehow have a brain aneurysm and allow the teams to start going the opposite way during the middle of a half, I doubt my brain would be functional enough to remember the example.

So what does that mean? At the 4 minute mark of the first quarter you discover the teams are going the wrong way. Nobody knows when they started. This is actually not as uncommon as one might think when young kids are involved. What would you do?

[bob jenkins]

I can see a TO in the middle of a quarter, and as part of the ensuing throw-in, the players all start going the wrong direction. Here, I'd let it stand, and fix it when discovered.

I think it needs to be that the referees are also just thinking that everything is normal, and that it's after some break in the action.

Or, use 2-3 (or whatever it is) to decide.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by just another ref

So what does that mean? At the 4 minute mark of the first quarter you discover the teams are going the wrong way. Nobody knows when they started. This is actually not as uncommon as one might think when young kids are involved. What would you do?

If nobody knows when they started going to the wrong way, then I'm assuming young kids are also officiating. The video in the OP is clearly a situation of an "all of a sudden" moment, not a prolonged stretch of action where everyone played normally.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

If nobody knows when they started going to the wrong way, then I'm assuming young kids are also officiating. The video in the OP is clearly a situation of an "all of a sudden" moment, not a prolonged stretch of action where everyone played normally.

4 seconds elapse in the OP with the wrong team inbounding the ball and dribbling into its own backcourt. This may not qualify as a "prolonged stretch of action" to you, but it's more than a sudden moment to me. Clearly none of the officials are aware of the problem and they don't appear to be young kids to me.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by just another ref

4 seconds elapse in the OP with the wrong team inbounding the ball and dribbling into its own backcourt. This may not qualify as a "prolonged stretch of action" to you, but it's more than a sudden moment to me. Clearly none of the officials are aware of the problem and they don't appear to be young kids to me.

I could never fathom going the wrong direction after a free throw and letting it last more than 5 seconds. And if someone were to launch a shot a the wrong basket that goes in after the buzzer, I'm not compounding my complete ineptitude by scoring points.

And again I ask, so in the OP, you are going to the scorer's table and making sure they awarded 2 points to Blue for the basket they made into White's basket?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I could never fathom going the wrong direction after a free throw and letting it last more than 5 seconds. And if someone were to launch a shot a the wrong basket that goes in after the buzzer, I'm not compounding my complete ineptitude by scoring points.

And again I ask, so in the OP, you are going to the scorer's table and making sure they awarded 2 points to Blue for the basket they made into White's basket?

In the OP, since the one basket is the extent of the damage, no, I think you credit it to white. However, had the action continued for any longer reaching the point where white also took a shot at the wrong basket, or had there been a turnover and blue again attacked the wrong basket, then I think it would fall under the "officials allowed the teams to go the wrong way" blanket, at which time the point would count for the team that shot them.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I could never fathom going the wrong direction after a free throw and letting it last more than 5 seconds. And if someone were to launch a shot a the wrong basket that goes in after the buzzer, I'm not compounding my complete ineptitude by scoring points.

Just to be clear, you're going to stop play here before the ball goes through?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Adam

Just to be clear, you're going to stop play here before the ball goes through?

Most definitely.