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Old Wed Jun 04, 2014, 06:40pm
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About once a year I have a situation where I believe that a rebounding foul has occurred and I sound my whistle, to then observe, a split second later, that the foulee now has the rebound easily in his possession. I swear that I'll never be fooled like that again, but I always am.
Sometimes, those fouls still need to be called....if only to discourage the behavior that you observed.

The game has degraded too far in the direction of not calling a foul if the player is still able to get the ball (or get by the defender, or make the shot). That can certainly be a factor, but it is taken too far. The advantage gained/lost is not always the end result but the effect how the rest of the game is played.
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Old Thu Jun 05, 2014, 08:51am
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Sometimes, those fouls still need to be called....if only to discourage the behavior that you observed.

The game has degraded too far in the direction of not calling a foul if the player is still able to get the ball (or get by the defender, or make the shot). That can certainly be a factor, but it is taken too far. The advantage gained/lost is not always the end result but the effect how the rest of the game is played.
And also the follow up play. IOW, if the player gets the ball but, due to the illegal contact, is now in a significantly less advantageous position with the ball, a foul should be called.
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Old Wed Jun 18, 2014, 12:23am
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First summer tournament. Rule change allowing players along free throw lane to enter on release.
At camp on Monday, our state's rules interpreter told us that all players can enter the lane on the release – including the shooter and players behind the arc. He repeated this when someone else asked if that was the new rule.
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Old Wed Jun 18, 2014, 12:33am
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At camp on Monday, our state's rules interpreter told us that all players can enter the lane on the release – including the shooter and players behind the arc. He repeated this when someone else asked if that was the new rule.
Gently suggest to him he might want to pay attention to the words "marked lane spaces" on the NFHS release before he answers that question publicly again.

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Old Wed Jun 18, 2014, 03:15am
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At camp on Monday, our state's rules interpreter told us that all players can enter the lane on the release – including the shooter and players behind the arc. He repeated this when someone else asked if that was the new rule.
PM me with the name of that "state rules interpreter."
I'll likely encounter him at an upcoming camp or two and want to be ready for it.
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Old Wed Jun 18, 2014, 06:25am
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I'll likely encounter him at an upcoming camp or two and want to be ready for it.
It's probably just a brain fart. The smell will eventually dissipate.
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Old Wed Jun 18, 2014, 06:58am
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It's probably just a brain fart. The smell will eventually dissipate.
That kind of brain fart is not acceptable from a state interpreter speaking at a camp full of officials.

If it were truly just a brain fart, he would have corrected himself by the end of the day/camp.
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That kind of brain fart is not acceptable from a state interpreter speaking at a camp full of officials.
In reviewing free throw mechanics with one of our cadet classes, the chair of the training committee stated that players in the marked lane spaces could not put any part of their body over the plane of the lane line, or the plane of the lane space lines. Unacceptable? Yes. Do mistakes like this happen? Yes. The other members of the committee either didn't note the mistake, or didn't want to embarrass him in front of the cadets. We let him know about it at the end of class, and he corrected himself at the next class. Teaching is tough. I know. I did it for over thirty years, as a day job. Maybe that's why I'm more tolerant than most.
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Old Wed Jun 18, 2014, 07:53am
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At camp on Monday, our state's rules interpreter
What state?
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What state?
Judging by Freddy's response, Michigan.
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Old Wed Jun 18, 2014, 10:12am
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Judging by Freddy's response, Michigan.
If that state is correct, I don't think they have any "state rules interpreters"
Would be interested in the authority of the one who was wrong
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Perhaps Rules Interpreter wasn't the best term to use, but I believe he is the head of basketball in the MHSAA. He does the voice over for the annual online rules meeting.
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