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OKREF Sat May 31, 2014 10:50am

Sign of things to come
 
First summer tournament. Rule change allowing players along free throw lane to enter on release.

A1 shooting 1-1, first shot, players move in, A2 fouls B1, shot goes in. Team B is in the bonus. Clear the lanes, shoot the second, go to other end shoot 1-1.

JRutledge Sat May 31, 2014 10:56am

I have worked several games with the new rules, not any more of a problem than there was before or when I worked college games. I think we are worried about nothing if you ask me.

Peace

Indianaref Sat May 31, 2014 11:05am

I've had the same thing with the old rule.

grunewar Sat May 31, 2014 11:13am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 935194)
I have worked several games with the new rules, not any more of a problem than there was before......

Agreed. Been my experience so far. No issues to date.

OKREF Sat May 31, 2014 11:21am

I see more fouls, with players being able to enter earlier, and leading to more of this.

Adam Sat May 31, 2014 11:42am

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Originally Posted by OKREF (Post 935199)
I see more fouls, with players being able to enter earlier, and leading to more of this.

For a while, perhaps. It's just the nature of having more rebounding action to officiate. Shouldn't be any more fouls on these than you'd have on any 15 foot jumper during regular action.

JRutledge Sat May 31, 2014 11:43am

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Originally Posted by OKREF (Post 935199)
I see more fouls, with players being able to enter earlier, and leading to more of this.

There has been in my experience, just as much contact during "old" rule as there was I have seen during the "new" rule. I did not call many fouls then, I do not see calling many fouls now. And with the old rule where there were situations where a foul might be called, a "talk to" usually put them on notice and stopped a lot of crap.

Peace

HokiePaul Mon Jun 02, 2014 07:56am

I've run in to some instances where the teams don't understand the new rule only applies to marked lane spaces. At least a few times, I've seen players beyond the 3-point line run in on the release to try and "box out the shooter". Too much NBA watching I suppose.

Not that I'd consider this a problem with the new rule. I'm sure by the time the HS season comes around, this won't be happening.

Welpe Mon Jun 02, 2014 08:23am

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Originally Posted by Indianaref (Post 935197)
I've had the same thing with the old rule.

Same here. No biggie. Call the foul and move on.

I think this is a good change and I'm glad to see the NFHS made it.

JRutledge Mon Jun 02, 2014 08:25am

I had a couple of fouls called this weekend when the ball was going to be live, and it was not an issue. Just like stated by Adam, players are doing nothing differnet than what they do during a jump shot during normal action.

Peace

Rich Mon Jun 02, 2014 08:39am

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Originally Posted by OKREF (Post 935199)
I see more fouls, with players being able to enter earlier, and leading to more of this.

Why is this a problem? Your whistle isn't limited in its number of uses, is it?

Pantherdreams Mon Jun 02, 2014 09:23am

This has been the rule in FIBA for a while. We don't have 1 and 1's though so there is no awkward foul between shots then a walk down.

I don't really see a lot of fouls in these competitive situations. If you are seeing elbows and punches thrown then obivously you get those in anysituation. If there is bumping/displacment that would lead to an advantage or disadvantage I would just have a patient whistle and see if the made shot changes your ideas about what the contact is doing. If you still feel its leading to a rougher game, and a "Clean it up" doesn't get it done early you can go and get it to.

Just call the fouls that you see. How much walking you do to the free throw line comes down to how the kids play.

JRutledge Mon Jun 02, 2014 09:32am

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Originally Posted by Pantherdreams (Post 935299)
This has been the rule in FIBA for a while. We don't have 1 and 1's though so there is no awkward foul between shots then a walk down.

This has been the NCAA rule for years and I cannot think of a single time there was a foul between a 1 and 1 in any of those games I just watched, let alone officiated.

Peace

Multiple Sports Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:57am

My mind set isn't changing....call fouls !!! Yes, a few kids from outside will run in ( allowed in NBA ) but otherwise, no big deal...

Adam Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:20am

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Originally Posted by Multiple Sports (Post 935310)
My mind set isn't changing....call fouls !!! Yes, a few kids from outside will run in ( allowed in NBA ) but otherwise, no big deal...

I believe the rule is the same on this in the NBA, but I'm not sure.


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