Player equipment question

[BillyMac]

... they are still legal as of right now.

... and boom goes the dynamite.

Originally Posted by BillyMac

If most officials would deem that long hair wouldn't present any safety issues by "poke(ing) someone in the eye", then most officials would probably not deem that a few inches of cloth on a headband would present any safety concerns.

We're discussing this (below)? Right?

[SAJ]

I thought headbands had to be "unadorned"

[Raymond]

Like this Billy, in regards to how it hangs:

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by SAJ

I thought headbands had to be "unadorned"

Beauty, being subjective, is in the eye of the beholder.

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Like this, in regards to how it hangs.

If it were a single, legal, color, I wouldn't think twice about allowing this in my game. It's no more unsafe than "a ponytail hangin' down" and we've all allowed ponytails in our games. I'm tougher than most in enforcing Fashion Police rules, and this wouldn't even make a blip on my radar screen.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Beauty, being subjective, is in the eye of the beholder.



If it were a single, legal, color, I wouldn't think twice about allowing this in my game. It's no more unsafe than "a ponytail hangin' down" and we've all allowed ponytails in our games. I'm tougher than most in enforcing Fashion Police rules, and this wouldn't even make a blip on my radar screen.

I'm not arguing that it's legal, but I will disagree with your ponytail reasoning. That has nothing to do with this.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

...ponytail reasoning. That has nothing to do with this.

I can certainly see your point, headbands are equipment, and fall under equipment rules, and ponytails aren't equipment.

But "nothing" is going a little to far.

Both fall under safety guidelines (different guidelines, but both have to do with player safety, that's what they have in common, safety). If the officials believe that equipment, hair, or fingernails, are unsafe, then they can remove that player from the game, at least until the problem is rectified.

In my opinion, the cloth ends of a headband create the same danger as flowing hair. If an official lets a player play with long hair, then that official should let another player play with cloth ends on a headband.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Beauty, being subjective, is in the eye of the beholder.



If it were a single, legal, color, I wouldn't think twice about allowing this in my game. It's no more unsafe than "a ponytail hangin' down" and we've all allowed ponytails in our games. I'm tougher than most in enforcing Fashion Police rules, and this wouldn't even make a blip on my radar screen.

I now know that the Karate Kid headband is legal.

But since you are making ponytail and headbands equivalent, how long would you let the tail of the headband hang? To the shoulders; mid-back; rear end?

And of course, in a boy's game, would make the same allowances, correct?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

How long would you let the tail of the headband hang?

As long as I believe that the hair, or the headband cloth ends, don't create a player safety issue. Nobody in my game is going to be tripping over a piece of cloth at the end of a headband, or a very long ponytail.

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

And of course, in a boy's game, would make the same allowances, correct?

Same for boys.

[hoopsaddict]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Like this Billy, in regards to how it hangs:

One may argue that 3-5-4b would be used to rule the headband in the photo above illegal as the headband now extends beyond the maximum 2 inches.

[Bad Zebra]

Originally Posted by hoopsaddict

One may argue that 3-5-4b would be used to rule the headband in the photo above illegal as the headband now extends beyond the maximum 2 inches.

I interpret the two inch maximum in 3-5-4b to be referring to WIDTH of said headband.

Originally Posted by hoopsaddict

One may argue that 3-5-4b would be used to rule the headband in the photo above illegal as the headband now extends beyond the maximum 2 inches.

Plus is that thing really black, white, beige, or a team color??

[BryanV21]

I don't have the rule book in front of me, but when it comes to headbands the only limitations I know of involve color. There's nothing that says part of it can't hang like this one does.

Therefore, outside of color, the only reason I can see not allowing a player to play with it on (we've been taught to NEVER request a player remove something, only to tell them they can't play with it on*) would be if there was a bead or other hard substance that could be a real safety issue.

By the way, I use the word "real" because there's a better chance that a player were to get poked in the eye by an opponent's finger rather than the two inches of fabric hanging from this headband.

*this is a legal issue, as apparently players have been told to remove something and some type of medical issue ensued. So by telling a player they simply can't play with it on an official is not telling them to remove something that may be vital to said player's health, thus avoiding legal trouble.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

I don't have the rule book in front of me, but when it comes to headbands the only limitations I know of involve color.

Number, width, logos?