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Old Fri Mar 28, 2014, 07:39am
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Arbiter Mandate

I had seen a thread a week or so regarding mandates by the State governing bodies on officiating. GHSA has issued a mandate requiring us to use Arbiter for all registration and assigning of officials.

I was wondering if any other states have made this move. If so, how successful or unsuccessful has it been? What the reasons given for the mandate? What did the governing body get out of the move?
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Old Fri Mar 28, 2014, 08:00am
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In Kentucky, I believe all sports use Arbiter. (I know basketball and baseball do) Part of our state dues go toward the Arbiter user fee. I have no idea how much the fee per official is.
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Old Fri Mar 28, 2014, 08:39am
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Here, in SE PA, there is no mandate for school basketball, the only state-sanctioned sport I currently work. Some basketball assignors use it, some don't.

I can only speculate about what a governing body would get. Increased consistency and accountability, as people have to accept/decline assignments? Ease in pre-game communication among partners? A more structured system for submitting post-game incidents in reports? If the state also implements refpay, maybe some more methodical payment.
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Old Fri Mar 28, 2014, 09:25am
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I dream of the day when all of our conferences and sports use one system for assigning. As it is now, some use Arbiter, some use rSchool, some use RefRanking/Athletix, and some still send out paper contracts.

I'd be happy to move everything to Arbiter -- would be the best thing ever for us.
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I agree that the multiple systems is a pain. But, I'd rather move everything off the arbiter than on to it.
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Old Fri Mar 28, 2014, 04:57pm
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I agree that the multiple systems is a pain. But, I'd rather move everything off the arbiter than on to it.
Bob,

Any experiences you care to share?
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i dream of the day when all of our conferences and sports use one system for assigning. As it is now, some use arbiter, some use rschool, some use refranking/athletix, and some still send out paper contracts.

I'd be happy to move everything to arbiter -- would be the best thing ever for us.
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Old Fri Mar 28, 2014, 09:39am
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I dream of the day when all of our conferences and sports use one system for assigning. As it is now, some use Arbiter, some use rSchool, some use RefRanking/Athletix, and some still send out paper contracts.

I'd be happy to move everything to Arbiter -- would be the best thing ever for us.
I share your dream. I have to keep an eye on:
*Arbiter (NCAAW & NJ HS)
*Reftown (NYC GV)
*Presto (NCAAW)
*email (NYC BV)

Somehow I have avoided double-booking anyone (knock wood).
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Here, in SE PA, there is no mandate for school basketball, the only state-sanctioned sport I currently work. Some basketball assignors use it, some don't.
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The kid from Chester looked good last night. I have some cousins who played at Academy Park.


Our state association hasn't mandated anything. Both my HS boards utilize Arbiter. The previous commissioner on my local board lost his position in 2010 in part because he refused to go to electronic scheduling; he was still using pen and paper and sending out assignment on an Execl spreadsheet.
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The kid from Chester looked good last night. I have some cousins who played at Academy Park.


Our state association hasn't mandated anything. Both my HS boards utilize Arbiter. The previous commissioner on my local board lost his position in 2010 in part because he refused to go to electronic scheduling; he was still using pen and paper and sending out assignment on an Execl spreadsheet.
It's funny - part of the reason I decided not to reapply for the assigning gig I had in 2007 was because the teams insisted I go back to manual scheduling. I refused. The guy doing the job now is STILL emailing out assignments manually 7 years later.
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Old Fri Mar 28, 2014, 11:59am
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[snip] The guy doing the job now is STILL emailing out assignments manually 7 years later.
Being retired, I LOVE those emails (or occasionally a phone call) at 8 or 9 am, asking if I'm free that afternoon. Sure! Where, what time?
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I had seen a thread a week or so regarding mandates by the State governing bodies on officiating. GHSA has issued a mandate requiring us to use Arbiter for all registration and assigning of officials.

I was wondering if any other states have made this move. If so, how successful or unsuccessful has it been? What the reasons given for the mandate? What did the governing body get out of the move?
Good questions. On the surface it seems highly anti-competitive to me. I’m not sure how they get away with mandating officials to use something, especially when the officials or the officiating organization is expected to pay for it.
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Our area uses the arbiter.Personally I love it-everything is very easily laid out.All it takes is a click to accept or decline a game and all the forms are available online for easy reference.
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Good questions. On the surface it seems highly anti-competitive to me. I’m not sure how they get away with mandating officials to use something, especially when the officials or the officiating organization is expected to pay for it.
Our arbiter fees are taken from our annual dues. We're paying it, but it's just not itemized.

A few years ago, the state mandated its use for playoff assignments: that's the only requirement I'm aware of that comes down from the state. I think it was just easier to use a system that is compatible at the local level.

Refpay seems to be making the same transition. First mandated to get paid for playoff games, now more and more schools get added each year.
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Refpay seems to be making the same transition ... more and more schools get added each year.
One school last year, a second this year (of the seventy schools we service). I haven't worked at either school. Some of us, including me, are reluctant to give the schools our bank account numbers, social security numbers (that we already do for many schools), and driver's license numbers. And we don't want to pay $5.00 for a mailed paper check. What do you guys think? What have your experiences with Refpay been like? Is it inevitable as we continue our march through the Digital Age of "Big Brother"?
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