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Old Mon Mar 24, 2014, 03:12pm
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Depends where you work, and whom you work for.
Like other things we could name, you can call it any way you want and should do what the bosses want. But if you knowingly take away the free throws because contact causes the shooter to change his try to a pass, you have no rules support in doing so.
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Old Mon Mar 24, 2014, 03:17pm
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Like other things we could name, you can call it any way you want and should do what the bosses want. But if you knowingly take away the free throws because contact causes the shooter to change his try to a pass, you have no rules support in doing so.
It's not only supervisors, it's also coaches. You start giving guys 2 shots on plays where players passed the ball and you'll be getting calls on the drive home after the coach calls the supervisor.

Coaches write the rules. Coaches in every entity I worked expect players that pass the ball after contact not to be awarded a shooting foul.
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Old Mon Mar 24, 2014, 03:22pm
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Coaches write the rules. Coaches in every entity I worked expect players that pass the ball after contact not to be awarded a shooting foul.

When the foul went against their team, I'm sure that's true.

Again, this expectation flies in the face of the rule, as written. If coaches don't like this rule, they should see that it's changed.
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Old Mon Mar 24, 2014, 03:25pm
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When the foul went against their team, I'm sure that's true....
When it's goes against their team, 100% of the time the coach yells at their player for not shooting. I have never had an exception to this scenario.
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Old Mon Mar 24, 2014, 03:27pm
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When it's goes against their team, 100% of the time the coach yells at their player for not shooting. I have never had an exception to this scenario.
"But I was shooting, coach! Until that goon dislocated my elbow."
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Old Mon Mar 24, 2014, 03:29pm
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"But I was shooting, coach! Until that goon dislocated my elbow."
Has never happened. Can only go by my experiences and the expectations where I work.

I'm sure a person with a dislocated elbow is just as incapable of passing the ball as he is of shooting the ball. He would most likely drop the ball, and his team awarded 2 shots for the flagrant/IF anyway
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