Post-season T report

[Dexter555]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I have read that it is not technically correct. Again, it really depends on who is saying it and where you are saying that word. Language is fluid and changes all the time with slang and dialect.

Language DOES change, and what becomes so commonplace can sometimes become accepted. Technically, "Can I have some water?" is incorrect, but so few people say "May I" anymore that it may soon become accepted by use.

Not so with irregardless. I have never seen a credible grammar source or dictionary--and I have looked extensively--that suggests "irregardless" is accepted or interchangeable with "regardless." All recommend, much like the Oxford dictionary: "Irregardless is widely heard, perhaps arising under the influence of such perfectly correct forms as irrespective , but should be avoided by careful users of English. Use regardless to mean ‘without regard or consideration for’ or ‘nevertheless’."

It is however, clearly understood what the user is saying when they say "irregardless," and it is boorish to correct the user. But I think it would be GROOVY if we all used the more proper word.

Oh, and I didn't make a pre-season prediction, but 3 Ts. 2 for substitutions, 1 for unsportsmanlike spiking the ball after a call.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Dexter555

Language DOES change, and what becomes so commonplace can sometimes become accepted. Technically, "Can I have some water?" is incorrect, but so few people say "May I" anymore that it may soon become accepted by use.

Not so with irregardless. I have never seen a credible grammar source or dictionary--and I have looked extensively--that suggests "irregardless" is accepted or interchangeable with "regardless." All recommend, much like the Oxford dictionary: "Irregardless is widely heard, perhaps arising under the influence of such perfectly correct forms as irrespective , but should be avoided by careful users of English. Use regardless to mean ‘without regard or consideration for’ or ‘nevertheless’."

And the English language is one of the most difficult languages because the language has so many different words that mean the same thing. And if you look to our people across the pond that tend to speak English too, but have many different sayings or standards of speaking, I find it funny that people get all upset when we use terms that have variations in speech. If I go to other parts of the country or world, no one is making a big issue out of these words the way we do in this country.

Peace

[Dexter555]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

And the English language is one of the most difficult languages because the language has so many different words that mean the same thing. And if you look to our people across the pond that tend to speak English too, but have many different sayings or standards of speaking, I find it funny that people get all upset when we use terms that have variations in speech. If I go to other parts of the country or world, no one is making a big issue out of these words the way we do in this country.

Couldn't agree more. After studying other languages, I can only imagine how difficult it is to learn English. And you're spot on about other languages. There are so many variants of many world languages. I readily admit my anal retentiveness about grammar. My mother was a high school English/grammar teacher and I grew up with constant correction. But that's a story for group therapy, not this forum! And it was most definitely NOT groovy to have her teach in the same school I attended...

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

And the English language is one of the most difficult languages because the language has so many different words that mean the same thing. And if you look to our people across the pond that tend to speak English too, but have many different sayings or standards of speaking.

My son-in-law is from Australia. I have no idea what he's saying half of the time. What language do they speak in Australia?

[JRutledge]

African.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

African.

Not a language. Not a country, but we all come from there. All of us. Every single one of us. We are all cousins. No two people are more distantly related than 50th cousins.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

No two people are more distantly related than 50th cousins.

Not even close to correct, but at least 1 order of magnitude. 50 generations is only (approx) 1000 years.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

Not even close to correct, but at least 1 order of magnitude. 50 generations is only (approx) 1000 years.

Hey cousin MD. Ever hear of pedigree collapse? We can discuss it at Thanksgiving dinner. Bring a bottle of wine. And some yams. Yeah, some yams. That's probably what our distant African aunt, and uncle, ancestors had for their Thanksgiving dinners.

Hopefully Uncle Harry won't bore us with his vacation slides, like he usually does.

Pedigree collapse - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Straight Dope: 2, 4, 8, 16 ... how can you always have MORE ancestors as you go back in time?

[Rich]

Any chance this thread might meander back to the original topic?

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by Dexter555

Not so with irregardless. I have never seen a credible grammar source or dictionary--and I have looked extensively--that suggests "irregardless" is accepted or interchangeable with "regardless."

There it is. If you put "ir" before a word, it becomes that word's opposite (e.g. irrational, opposite of rational). When one says "irregardless," one means "regardless." That alone is wrong... or irrational.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bainsey

There it is. If you put "ir" before a word, it becomes that word's opposite (e.g. irrational, opposite of rational). When one says "irregardless," one means "regardless." That alone is wrong... or irrational.

There seems to be a debate.

Peace