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bainsey Sat Mar 15, 2014 07:59pm

Post-season T report
 
Before the season, most of us predicted how many technical fouls we would have this season. How'd they actually stack up with our predictions?

I'll start. I don't get many in these parts. I predicted 2-3, and wound up with two: one for an illegal number the book (#7!) and one for a second DOG warning (both plane violations).

(I'm not counting the two unsportsmanlike Ts I had today....Y-league, high school boys.)

shavano Sat Mar 15, 2014 09:07pm

I had 6... 4 for player language, and 2 to a coach for ABS.

OrStBballRef Sat Mar 15, 2014 09:27pm

I figured I'd hit my historical average of 4-7, with most being towards the end of the year.

I had only three and two of which were on a coach in a late season game. Other was on a player for conduct second week of the season.

Only a couple of players/coaches even approached the line...

Stat-Man Sat Mar 15, 2014 10:32pm

No predictions, but I think I had five, after just one last year:
  1. (CYO) T for a player running into the playing action directly from the bench.
  2. (CYO) Unsporting T on a head coach.
  3. (JV-G) Admin T - Wrong number in both scorebooks for a player.
  4. (CYO) Unsporting T for a player throwing the ball at me and hitting me in the shoulder at the end of the period.
  5. (CYO) Another unsporting T on a head coach. On this particular night, my partner & I combined for 2 Techs and 4 Intentional fouls in 3 games together. :(

Welpe Sun Mar 16, 2014 01:41am

I nailed my predicted zero Ts issued out of zero games worked.

AremRed Sun Mar 16, 2014 02:11am

I learned this year that you only remember the techs you didn't call. Here are mine:

Should have tossed a coach who showed me up (twice!) after my partner whacked him.
Should have whacked a coach after he made statements like "I can tell where we're at tonight!" and "We're getting screwed!"
Should have whacked bench players for standing up during play after three warnings.
Should have whacked a different coach who also said "I can tell where we're at!"

grunewar Sun Mar 16, 2014 06:37am

No prediction from me
 
Five for me. I was cruising along pretty good and then had a patch of three in three games.

Three ABS, one coach lost his mind, and one player took out his frustrations on the ball..... :rolleyes:

JetMetFan Sun Mar 16, 2014 08:35am

I was < 10. A bunch early, including a player running onto the court while her team had the ball. She wasn't "rule savvy" to say the least. Her coach told her to "go in for so-and-so," so she did. Immediately.

Two in the postseason. One for a girl who swore (remember our "no tolerance" rule). She asked her teammates "who the f*** has the shooter?" while standing on the FT lane.

The other was in a BV game. Home team up by 30. Held ball late in the 4th quarter. The visiting player fell down while trying to keep his hands on the ball. After I blow my whistle the home player stand over him and talks junk. I call the T since it was right in front of me (I was T opposite the table and the held ball was at the left elbow). I tell my partner what I have, go to the table and give the details and I let both coaches know what the deal is. When I go back to my partner we have the following conversation:

Him: "Okay, so white has possession."
Me: "Why? I called a T on white #3."
Him: "You didn't call a double technical?"
Me: "No. The kid in blue didn't say anything."
Him: "You should call a T on blue."
Me: "Why? He didn't say anything. I was standing right there."
Him: "He said something, too. You should call a tech on him."
Me: "I'm not calling a tech on him. He didn't do anything."
Him: "But I'm giving you information!"
Me: "I'm aware of that but I'm not calling a technical on him."

Here's the back story on why I ignored him. The game in question was a 5:00 start. My partner, who I hadn't worked with in years but will more than likely be late for his own funeral, walked into the gym at 5:20. I wasn't exactly happy when I found out he was my partner to begin with since I knew he'd be late. When he came in he all of a sudden took on the "R" persona like "this is how we're going to call the game." Good or bad I wasn't exactly going to trust his judgment. My other thoughts were:

*If you saw the kid in blue say something, why not say that to me before I go to the table?
*I would've called a double T if the kid had said anything but I was going to give him the benefit of the doubt since he was on his backside when he was taunted.
*If blue had been called for a T after I'd already told their HC his team was shooting two, we probably end up calling a T on him when he loses his mind...especially since his team was taking a beating.

Okay. I'm done venting. :)

Raymond Sun Mar 16, 2014 08:58am

I've never predicted how many T's I would call, is there some kind of formula to accurately do this? :rolleyes:

Don't remember how many I did call. Only things that sticks out are:

1) I called my first one ever on a college HC.
2) Only called one this year on a HS HC, and he was up by 20 in the 4th quarter. He got his generally for being a smug a-hole.

bainsey Sun Mar 16, 2014 09:15am

Quote:

Originally Posted by JetMetFan (Post 927208)
Him: ".... You should call a tech on him."

Few things will get you into trouble like, "you should."

Besides, if he saw/heard something, why didn't he access that technical foul? If they double up, fine.

Lcubed48 Sun Mar 16, 2014 10:14am

I'm remembering 5. 3 on players, 2 book T's, and no HC's. I'm bummed. ;):rolleyes:

Rich Sun Mar 16, 2014 11:13am

I'll let you know when my season's over. :D

JRutledge Sun Mar 16, 2014 11:19am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich (Post 927220)
I'll let you know when my season's over. :D

Same here.

But I do not anticipate any problems at this stage of the post season.

Peace

LRZ Sun Mar 16, 2014 11:20am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stat-Man (Post 927191)
No predictions, but I think I had five, after just one last year:
  1. (CYO) Unsporting T for a player throwing the ball at me and hitting me in the shoulder at the end of the period.

What? Intentionally throwing the ball AT (not TO) you? WOW, Stat-Man!

BillyMac Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:16pm

It's Just Another Foul ...
 
I know that I didn't have any against coaches (as Frank Sinatra said, "It was a very good year"). I may have had one for delay of game (defender crosses boundary after a warning) but I really can't remember.

One of my partners called one in a girls varsity game. A player called him a "fu*king ass*ole". You should have seen the look on my partner's face.

I almost called one against a girl in a varsity scrimmage. She "boxed out" a three point shooter into the bleachers, and strongly disagreed with my foul call on her. Her tone, her facial expression, and her body language, almost got her a cup of tea in a scrimmage. Later in the scrimmage my partner had to speak to her after another complaint, at which point her coach took her out of the game and sat her on the end of the bench with the junior varsity players. In a scrimmage, that's better than a technical.

Whatever happened to sugar and spice and everything nice?


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