Video Request: Cal Poly vs. UC Irvine

[JugglingReferee]

I don't see the travel. I see the ball not in his possession. I also see the ball touching Gold last before going OB. Of course, both of these are after the missed foul. A violation on A is the last thing you want to call here.

C starts in the right position to watch in the match-ups near the throw-in. Once the TI is airborne, he's gotta know that the L can't help with this, so he has to be on his horse to get there. He didn't start moving to get a better look until the ball was almost the destination.

But hey, we all miss some.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

I don't see the travel. I see the ball not in his possession. I also see the ball touching Gold last before going OB. Of course, both of these are after the missed foul. A violation on A is the last thing you want to call here.

C starts in the right position to watch in the match-ups near the throw-in. Once the TI is airborne, he's gotta know that the L can't help with this, so he has to be on his horse to get there. He didn't start moving to get a better look until the ball was almost the destination.

But hey, we all miss some.

Foul? On who? I see two players in equally favorable positions on a poorly thrown pass jumping towards each other.

I can see that the ball may have been loose just before he hit the floor, but splitting that hair in real time would be tough and it isn't even clear in slo-mo.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Foul? On who? I see two players in equally favorable positions on a poorly thrown pass jumping towards each other.

I can see that the ball may have been loose just before he hit the floor, but splitting that hair in real time would be tough and it isn't even clear in slo-mo.

A's vector is definitely not towards B. A does jump so that his landing spot is on the same vector as the throw-in. But this is not illegal, and he is still afforded to land safely.

In the end zone view, I see B jumping towards and into A and the arm-length contact removes A's chance to land safely with possession because it throws off A's balance significantly.

I agree that catching the loose ball in real time is difficult. I thought it was only a suspect travel in real-time, and an easy call non-travel in slow-mo, but that may be my college football video training coming through (catch/no-catch). Nonetheless, I think the non-travel is the more accurate observation.

If the C didn't wish to call (or observe) a foul, giving the ball to A for the OB violation is an easy sell given that the travel is more likely not there than it is there.

Again, just a deeper explanation of my 2 cents.

[ballgame99]

I don't see a foul on B (he stays pretty vertical), and A doesn't travel, out off of gold, black ball. He was going to travel but dropped the ball. Great play for review.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

A's vector is definitely not towards B. A does jump so that his landing spot is on the same vector as the throw-in. But this is not illegal, and he is still afforded to land safely.

In the end zone view, I see B jumping towards and into A and the arm-length contact removes A's chance to land safely with possession because it throws off A's balance significantly.

Neither player was jumping "towards each other" but towards the spot the ball was being thrown to. B's landing spot was open when he jumped too and A just jumped into the same space.

[Rich]

I'd rather see a more patient whistle from the C and nothing but an out of bounds violation.

I do not have a foul on this play.

[Multiple Sports]

Nothing just a simple out of bounds.....

Slow down and let the whole play.......

Begin / Develop and Finish !!!!! ( according to the words of Al Battista )

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Foul? On who? I see two players in equally favorable positions on a poorly thrown pass jumping towards each other.

I can see that the ball may have been loose just before he hit the floor, but splitting that hair in real time would be tough and it isn't even clear in slo-mo.

I think it's clear in slow motion, but other than that, this is my thought on this after watching once.

[BryanV21]

I don't have a foul here, but I'm not sure he had possession of the ball before he fell. I'm leaning no-call here. But I'm not about to say the ref missed the call.

[Raymond]

I don't see a foul, nor did I see possession in real time or in slow motion.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

C starts in the right position to watch in the match-ups near the throw-in. Once the TI is airborne, he's gotta know that the L can't help with this, so he has to be on his horse to get there. He didn't start moving to get a better look until the ball was almost the destination.

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While I don't think there is any foul here, I will disagree with your statement that the L can't help out on this play. He could, if he was anywhere in the video! 9 of the 10 players end up in the backcourt, and the 10th is close to the midcourt line, but the L isn't even in the video. Where the heck was he???

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

While I don't think there is any foul here, I will disagree with your statement that the L can't help out on this play. He could, if he was anywhere in the video! 9 of the 10 players end up in the backcourt, and the 10th is close to the midcourt line, but the L isn't even in the video. Where the heck was he???

At best he would've been at the FTLE extended in the frontcourt since that's about as much as the main camera angle covers. Good observation given every player was within about 60 feet of the throw-in spot.