Throw in BC?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Yes. The four elements for having a backcourt violation are: there must be team control (and initial player control
when coming from a throw-in); the ball must have achieved frontcourt status; the team in team control must
be the last to touch the ball before it goes into the backcourt; that same team must be the first to touch after
the ball has been in the backcourt.

I know it is. This was the whole point, that this is an example of the ball having frontcourt status with no team control by either side.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by just another ref

I know it is. This was the whole point, that this is an example of the ball having frontcourt status with no team control by either side.

And it would be a violation if B1 jumped from his frontcourt, caught the ball in midair, then landed in his backcourt. What was the status of the ball before B1 touched it?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

And it would be a violation if B1 jumped from his frontcourt, caught the ball in midair, then landed in his backcourt. What was the status of the ball before B1 touched it?

Before he touched it, backcourt status. When he catches it, now there is team control in the frontcourt. When he lands, now it has backcourt status again.

violation

[Adam]

Originally Posted by just another ref

I know it is. This was the whole point, that this is an example of the ball having frontcourt status with no team control by either side.

Yep. As soon as A1 catches the ball, FC status is obtained at the same time the respective FC and BC become defined.

Now, I recognize the distinction I'm making doesn't really come with a difference. For me, however, it conceptually makes sense when understanding the BC rule.

To Camron's point, the case plays referenced could easily be explained as using the terms for reference in a play that can't be viewed in a case book.