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Old Mon Feb 24, 2014, 04:15pm
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Over the backboard from behind

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Legal per NBA, I'm assuming? I could see why, I suppose, at that level. I can't find anything about the backboard in relation to OB violations at all, though.

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Old Mon Feb 24, 2014, 04:18pm
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Yes, that's a legal play. For it to be OOB, it has to go directly over the top of the backboard (either way).
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Old Mon Feb 24, 2014, 04:23pm
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So any non-perpendicular to the backboard angle = legal. Interesting.

(I'm still embededly challenged. And I couldn't find the old sticky instructions. Which I couldn't get to work in the past, anyway. And I tried pasting in the YT embed code directly into the body. Apologies.)
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Old Mon Feb 24, 2014, 04:25pm
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So any non-perpendicular to the backboard angle = legal. Interesting.

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Old Mon Feb 24, 2014, 04:29pm
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Yes, that's a legal play. For it to be OOB, it has to go directly over the top of the backboard (either way).
How can it NOT go over the top of the backboard if it actually touched the top of the backboard?

Besides, if this is illegal...

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Old Mon Feb 24, 2014, 05:05pm
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How can it NOT go over the top of the backboard if it actually touched the top of the backboard?

Besides, if this is illegal...

The ball has to go DIRECTLY behind the backboard...not at an angle.

The play you reference is from the 80's and was illegal at the times. The rule was changed some time ago.
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Old Mon Feb 24, 2014, 05:14pm
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Old Tue Feb 25, 2014, 05:38am
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The ball has to go DIRECTLY behind the backboard...not at an angle.

The play you reference is from the 80's and was illegal at the times. The rule was changed some time ago.
I am not seeing anywhere where it says it has to come from directly behind the backboard. 7-1-b says "the ball is out of bounds when it passes over a rectangular backboard" that is all it says. The case play is not so clear. 7.1.2 sit A part B says, "the ball strikes the...top edge of the backboard or passes over the (rectangular) backboard and the ball came from a pass or try from the front or back of the plane of the backboard.

Ruling part b: the ball remains live if it touches a side edge or the top edge if it rebounds and comes down in front of the backboard. <-----that sentence seems to contradict the next sentence: the ball becomes dead if it passes over the top of a rectangular backboard regardless of the action which causes it to pass over or whether it comes from the front or the back of the plane.

So to me a live ball in bounds that comes from behind the backboard plane that passes over to the BB to the front is live but: a live ball from behind the BB that touches the top edge and returns to the back side is dead. And a live ball inbounds that passes from the front plane and goes over to the back is dead. So you can actually shoot from directly behind the backboard, throw it over and if it goes in it counts, is that correct. If so this appears to be another rule book/casebook contradiction.
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Old Tue Feb 25, 2014, 07:07am
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I am not seeing anywhere where it says it has to come from directly behind the backboard. 7-1-b says "the ball is out of bounds when it passes over a rectangular backboard" that is all it says. The case play is not so clear. 7.1.2 sit A part B says, "the ball strikes the...top edge of the backboard or passes over the (rectangular) backboard and the ball came from a pass or try from the front or back of the plane of the backboard.

Ruling part b: the ball remains live if it touches a side edge or the top edge if it rebounds and comes down in front of the backboard. <-----that sentence seems to contradict the next sentence: the ball becomes dead if it passes over the top of a rectangular backboard regardless of the action which causes it to pass over or whether it comes from the front or the back of the plane.

So to me a live ball in bounds that comes from behind the backboard plane that passes over to the BB to the front is live but: a live ball from behind the BB that touches the top edge and returns to the back side is dead. And a live ball inbounds that passes from the front plane and goes over to the back is dead. So you can actually shoot from directly behind the backboard, throw it over and if it goes in it counts, is that correct. If so this appears to be another rule book/casebook contradiction.
Everything that has been discussed in this thread so far is for the NBA.
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