Anyone see this? (Video)

[Da Official]

It seems that everyone (the coach, players, fans, sports fans, other officials) simply wants to know WHAT was the judgment call or ruling by the officials.

I'm a bit surprised it doesn't look like that will be answered.

I guess no one will ever know??? Pretty bizarre in this day and age, right?

[SAJ]

And technically, she did travel before the shot. Did a "same step" move with the left foot.

[HokiePaul]

Originally Posted by Da Official

It seems that everyone (the coach, players, fans, sports fans, other officials) simply wants to know WHAT was the judgment call or ruling by the officials.

I'm a bit surprised it doesn't look like that will be answered.

I guess no one will ever know??? Pretty bizarre in this day and age, right?

Not necessarily bizarre for a HS level game I don't think. I believe my association has a policy where officials will not comment on games. And I can see an association taking a position that it will not comment on judgement calls (no foul).

[Da Official]

Originally Posted by HokiePaul

Not necessarily bizarre for a HS level game I don't think. I believe my association has a policy where officials will not comment on games. And I can see an association taking a position that it will not comment on judgement calls (no foul).

Hokie...the question is WHAT was this judgement? Someone blew a whistle during regulation....most want to know what did they judge to have occurred. Also, I agree the officials should not comment after the game but someone should clear the air about what occurred.

"What happened?"

"Not telling you. Watch this 40 time."

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by Da Official

Hokie...the question is WHAT was this judgement? Someone blew a whistle during regulation....most want to know what did they judge to have occurred. Also, I agree the officials should not comment after the game but someone should clear the air about what occurred.

"What happened?"

"Not telling you. Watch this 40 time."

Do you live anywhere near all this? I'm from the East but I know TX is a rather large place

[HokiePaul]

Originally Posted by Da Official

Hokie...the question is WHAT was this judgement? Someone blew a whistle during regulation....most want to know what did they judge to have occurred. Also, I agree the officials should not comment after the game but someone should clear the air about what occurred.

"What happened?"

"Not telling you. Watch this 40 time."

As an official who wants to understand what happened ... yes, I'd love to know. I also wouldn't expect a press release out to the public for something like this. Do we know for sure that the Athletic Department, State Association, Officials representative (assignor/association) haven't addressed this privately?

[zm1283]

High School Basketball Playoff Game Ends In Stupid, Ridiculous Way

Here's Deadspin's article. What is the one official doing with the raised open hand as they leave the court?

[j51969]

Originally Posted by zm1283

High School Basketball Playoff Game Ends In Stupid, Ridiculous Way

Here's Deadspin's article. What is the one official doing with the raised open hand as they leave the court?

If I had to guess he was gestering to the table to see if they were good to go (i.e. a scoring issue that could have made a difference in the game).

[Da Official]

Here's the story picked up by the local news station. So apparently the judgement is the foul or whatever the call occurred after the buzzer so game over. Now that we have an answer I'm done...


Celina fights against UIL's decision in controversial ending | wfaa.com Dallas - Fort Worth

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by zm1283

High School Basketball Playoff Game Ends In Stupid, Ridiculous Way

Okay, so now we know (from the article embedded in the Deadspin story): UIL says the crew determined time expired before the contact.

That still doesn't clear up anything. Last shot responsibility belonged to C since he was opposite the table, though they may have decided to let T take it since the action was in C's primary. C and L looked genuinely shocked by the whistle - as they should have been since it came before the LEDs on the backboard lit up.

My guess is T wasn't waving off the shot because his partners didn't seem to know what was happening until more than a few seconds after the play was blown dead.

At any rate, that's where the "judgment" part of UIL's statement comes in. Saying time expired wasn't great judgment but it was still judgment.

[Johnny Ringo]

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[Smitty]

For what it's worth, the UIL assigns crews/chapters to regional games. The chapter this crew is from is not from a large metro area and in fact is likely from a very small area. That's just how things work here. This crew is not in the chapter that assigns games for either of these teams in the regular season.

[zm1283]

Looks like the losing school got an explanation and visit from the state body:

http://highschoolsportsblog.dallasne...nclick_check=1

“One of the UIL officials had talked to the head official of the game, and he said he did blow his whistle and raise his hand for a foul call,” Davis said. “He didn’t see the time or hear the buzzer go off. He looked over at his co-official, who then waved his arms to indicate the game was over. That’s when they said ‘Let’s go’ and took off.

So I put my fist in the air and blow my whistle for a foul and don't ever hear the horn go off, and fully intend on going to the table to report the foul, but a partner just waves the shot off and decides the game is over?

1. Why did the guy who called the foul not stop everyone and discuss it?

2. Why did the guy who waved everything off not ask what the calling official had before they ran off?

I am far from perfect, but I can't imagine ending a game like that.

[Adam]

This is just wrong:

“The UIL said the referees should have stopped at the scorer’s table to check with them. That’s something that should have been done. And that’s where they didn’t handle it correctly. And the part about knowing that there was a whistle blown to call a foul does say a lot.”

I'm not saying this was done correctly, but if a game is over, it's over. I'm not stopping at the table to check with the scorers.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by zm1283

Looks like the losing school got an explanation and visit from the state body:

http://highschoolsportsblog.dallasne...nclick_check=1



So I put my fist in the air and blow my whistle for a foul and don't ever hear the horn go off, and fully intend on going to the table to report the foul, but a partner just waves the shot off and decides the game is over?

1. Why did the guy who called the foul not stop everyone and discuss it?

2. Why did the guy who waved everything off not ask what the calling official had before they ran off?

I am far from perfect, but I can't imagine ending a game like that.

Again, the importance of communication. I think your first question is the most important. Don't hide your light under a bushel in that situation. Tell your partners "Guys, I had a foul before the horn" and if you're 150% sure you go with that to the grave. If you're not the R and (s)he decides not to go with what you had at least you tried.