Anyone see this? (Video)

[rockyroad]

Are we even sure the C is the one who blows the whistle?? The look on his face and the way he drops his whistle makes me wonder...in the end-line view, you can see the L with his arm up also, and then he walks in and waves the shot off also. Maybe the L blew the whistle???

[MD Longhorn]

It's blurry... but isn't L raising his hand with 3 fingers, indicating a 3 point shot? My sound's not good here so I can't hear exactly when (or even if) a whistle is sounded... but what if they are simply ruling a 3 point shot badly missed here?

[j51969]

IMO - she traveled then got fouled by black's left arm on her shooting arm. That is only with the benefit watching the video in slow-mo. This could have gone either way, and quite possibily the officials thought time ran out before either of those happend.

[HokiePaul]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

It's blurry... but isn't L raising his hand with 3 fingers, indicating a 3 point shot? My sound's not good here so I can't hear exactly when (or even if) a whistle is sounded... but what if they are simply ruling a 3 point shot badly missed here?

I think you are right.

I think the Lead may have had the whistle (last part of the video (about the 50 second part of the clip posted by JMetFan) shows that official with arm still raised). The C was indicating a 3-pt attempt and dropped his hand immediatly when it was clear the ball wasn't going in.

Clearly something was missed here. My best guess is that Lead saw the foul, blew the whistle, incorrectly judged the foul to have occured after the horn, and chose to ignore the foul because it was after the horn and not intentional/flagrant (of course this doesn't matter because it was in the act of shooting -- but that would explain what appears to happen). Obviously none of the officials thought to get together and figure this out before heading off.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Not withstanding the lack of post game communication with the coaches, could the Timer have failed to start the clock and because the T should have had a backcourt count could the game ended before the clock actually stopped. There is not good view of the clock during the throw-in so I just trying to give an alternate ending. Still not a good way for the officials to have a game end.

MTD, Sr.

[MD Longhorn]

If there's a learning here - it might be to stop with the sprinting off the court habit a lot of us have when there might be something to discuss. I do it too - but I think them bailing without sharing with each other what happened is as much at fault as anything here.

[Nikki]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

It's blurry... but isn't L raising his hand with 3 fingers, indicating a 3 point shot? My sound's not good here so I can't hear exactly when (or even if) a whistle is sounded... but what if they are simply ruling a 3 point shot badly missed here?

There's definitely a whistle blown before the lights on the backboard go off, I don't think it was C's whistle tho, I think he's signaling the 3 pt attempt. Based on JMF's video I think the lead had a foul and there was no doubt still time left when he blew his whistle.
The most concerning to me is that their little get together is so short (and with just 2 of the 3) and then they leave with absolutely no explanation to anyone. Very strange to me.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Are we even sure the C is the one who blows the whistle?? The look on his face and the way he drops his whistle makes me wonder...in the end-line view, you can see the L with his arm up also, and then he walks in and waves the shot off also. Maybe the L blew the whistle???

That was my thought. We can't see the T at all in any of the videos until the 3 of them are walking off the court. The C looks like he dropped his had in response to someone else's whistle. Could be the L's or the T's. Maybe the T called a travel and they decided the "lag" in the clock was no correctable.

[JetMetFan]

So I'll modify my earlier observation...

*If the L was calling a travel, fine. Come out with the signal, put time back on the clock if someone has definite knowledge and give Black the ball for a throw-in.

Regardless, the guy who blew the whistle - and it appears more and more it was the T - needed to look up at the clock right at that moment. One of the endline views shows 0.9-0.8 on the clock when the whistle sounded. Too much time to rule "it was too close to the expiration of time to stop the clock." When you're in that spot you have to know you need to look at the clock the moment you put air in your whistle.

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

If there's a learning here - it might be to stop with the sprinting off the court habit a lot of us have when there might be something to discuss. I do it too - but I think them bailing without sharing with each other what happened is as much at fault as anything here.

This is a problem as well. Where are they rushing to? On the sideline view we don't even see the T until the C & L reach the opposite 3-point arc. This scenario was unique because only one team was going to be upset with whatever call was made. If it was a foul the Black team wasn't going to complain because all of those kids knew their teammate contacted the shooter. As I said earlier the White HC deserved an explanation - or at least more than a cursory "let's go" type of get together - especially with the gap between the whistle and the horn. If they explain, there's an answer. No explanation means there's video and as we've all learned...

Tape don't lie.

[referee99]

http://highschoolsportsblog.dallasne...nclick_check=1

[deecee]

Can you say Cluster F'd. I mean what were the guys thinking? It was all so bizarre. Whistle blown, weird preliminary, then buzzer, then backboard light, then basket waived off, then they sprint off the court. All the while the T seems to barely have left the endline.

I *hope* I never make it to one of these types of videos.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by referee99

http://highschoolsportsblog.dallasne...nclick_check=1

That's a non-statement.

And the "30-year official" who said something but was too cowardly to say his name should be ashamed of himself.

[JetMetFan]

The "explanation" just makes it worse. As is always the case the cover-up is worse than the crime. The video points to the crew FUBAR-ing the situation. Admit it, tell everyone why it happened and move on. The losing HC is quoted as saying she knows the outcome isn't going to change. Let her know why things went the way they did and the situation goes away that much faster.

Meantime if I'm the assignor that crew is probably done for the postseason and I most likely don't send them to either of those schools next season just to put some distance between the situation.

[mutantducky]

do you'se(my cousin Vinny) people sometime use players reactions to call fouls. I know that isn't common but I have on occasion. Or out of bounds plays. Ok obviously not most of the time as if you did it would get out of control especailly with some players who are going to be emotive every single time they think their is a missed call.
From the video, I can see why each ref missed the foul based on their angle. But based on the reactions of the players, especially the defensive team, they should have realized something was amiss and figured things out before leaving the court. The fans must have been bewildered.