Use of own backboard (not a try)

Originally Posted by Adam

Where is the "self pass" prohibited in the rules?

For that matter, where is it defined?

It's a colloquial term, don't get hung up on it.

[dahoopref]

Same play?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by dahoopref

Same play?

NFHS. Case play? Legal. Rules, as presently written, assuming this is not a try? Travel.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by AremRed

It's a colloquial term, don't get hung up on it.

I'm not hung up on it, but I will question it anytime anyone uses the term as the reason (in and of itself) something should be called a violation.

[Dexter555]

There's been debate on whether or not it is considered a try. Would you consider team control to have ended when he released it?

Statistically, if the defense had gotten that off the board, would it be a rebound or a steal if you were keeping the book?

[cmcramer]

Next time I steal a ball in my Old Fat Slow Men's League, I'm gonna streak toward my basket, throw the ball off my backboard once I get to the three point line, catch it and dribble to regain some balance, then I'm gonna do it again near the foul line, and again in the paint. Then I"ll score the basket. This play is made possible by the foot speed of this League"s players....

When the losers on the other team attempt to call a traveling violation, I'll refer them to this thread.

Game time 6:30 tomorrow morning!

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Dexter555

Would you consider team control to have ended when he released it?

No. It's not a try. It states as much in the thread title. So it's not a try. Is it a pass? If so, there's still team control. If it's not a try, and if it's not a pass, then just what the hell is it?

Originally Posted by BillyMac

No. It's not a try. It states as much in the thread title. So it's not a try. Is it a pass? If so, there's still team control. If it's not a try, and if it's not a pass, then just what the hell is it?

A violation.

[Nevadaref]

Without the Case Book ruling specifically stating that the action is legal, this would be a violation for an illegal dribble.

[HawkeyeCubP]

I pretty much agree with most comments so far. I'm just trying to reconcile the rules and the case play. Because this could conceivably happen in a boys' state playoff game in the near future (I see it happening unintended, with the thrower coming down because they don't handle the bounce from the backboard well), and I want to decide how I'd call it.

The only place my brain is finding any kind of solace is that, if possible, this live, loose ball exists outside the realm of a pass, try, dribble, or fumble.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Without the Case Book ruling specifically stating that the action is legal, this would be a violation for an illegal dribble.

Are you talking about the dunk? I agree.

If you're talking about the OP, where a player instead catches the ball and lands (rather than dunking), I'm less convinced than when this thread started.

I've come to a philosophy that when a case play contradicts the rule, I'm only willing to apply it to the very specific situation for which it was written. I'm hesitant to apply it to a play that deviates even slightly.

The OP represents a deviation from the case play that seems to me to be significant enough to warrant considering calling the violation.