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As for whether it was after the release or not, who cares? The coach asked for it, the official heard it, verified that his team had player control, then granted it. If whistles normally occurred the very moment of the request/violation/foul, we'd be talking about how many inadvertent whistles were in every game.
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Was there anything to see other than the timeout/canceled buzzer beater?
(Not watching 14 minutes of video to find out)
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No, that was the crux of this thread.
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No, there aren't. NFHS 5-1-1 A goal is made when a live ball enters the basket from above and remains in or passes through.
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A Few ...
Defensive basket interference. Defensive goaltending.
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My mistake. Thanks, Billy.
At any rate, granting a time-out while a try is in flight wouldn't be one of those situations.
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The coach knew he blew it. He iced his own shooter...ouch.
They handled the TO properly. The coach put them in a bad situation to start with. I'm no so sure I'd be expecting a TO from the coach as his shooter is pulling up for a last second shot but this is a good lesson be prepared for anything.
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It should. If it was blown prior to time expiring, then there will be time left on the game clock.
The officials can rule this play one of two ways. 1. The time-out was properly requested prior to the player control ending, but acknowledged a little late. Restore time to when the whistle sounded and white has the ball for a sideline throw-in. 2. The time-out request was not heard and properly granted until after the try was released, in which case the goal counts. The whistle still stops the clock and the team is still charged with the time-out which was requested, but erroneously granted. (It's erroneously granted in this case because it was acknowledged at point when it should not have been--there was no player control.) Resume the game at the POI = endline throw-in for Green. What the officials cannot do is what one poster suggested and ignore the whistle, count the goal, and declare the game over. That's wrong by rule. The game clock must stop when the whistle is sounded. |
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When there is action on the floor, the #1 priority is the action. I'm not turning my attention away from imminent action to if a coach might be calling timeout. Being aware of the game just means that, but sometimes you can't turn away from the game in front of you.
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Yes, this can easily be done by rule. The whistle is blowing as the horn starts to sound. Game over. Whistle is too late to stop the clock. It is that simple. Don't worry though, you will still be the first person I call if I ever need some rules help. |
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Assuming that the officials got it right with the granted timeout with time on the clock,
what scenarios would you T up the Home team player for hanging on the rim during a time out? |
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