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[JetMetFan]

On #4 the C wasn't behind the play at all. He was below the FTLE when the violation took place.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

On #4 the C wasn't behind the play at all. He was below the FTLE when the violation took place.

Yes, he was in good position, and he also called the basket interference. But when it involves a hand going up through the net, I have no problem with the Lead having a whistle.

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

On #4 the C wasn't behind the play at all. He was below the FTLE when the violation took place.

C was in position, but in transition there is no guarantee that he would be, unlike a half-court situation where the off-ball official will nearly always be in position. During transition I think this call is fair game to Lead.

[JRutledge]

1. I have no problem coming in with a foul. If he saw something up top, that is a good call to make.

2. PC Foul all the way.

3. Basket should have counted. The ball handler gathers and never puts the ball back on the floor after being fouled.

4. In transition usually is a time the L can make that call. But he was also already on the end line, so I am not sure why he made that call. But it appeared to be the right call.

Peace

[Toren]

I'm fine with the call, I would not have made it.

PC foul, the C made me laugh, cause he didn't hold up a fist, but he does a funny kind of dance that seems to agree with his partner's call.

From his angle, it would be hard to see if the habitual motion had begun.

The C has the play, his hand is up and I'm sure he's wondering why the Lead has this. Stevie Wonder can see this one.

[Nevadaref]

My thoughts:
1. Leave it alone and the Lead handle this play.

2. Clear PC for the push-off. Nice call and would like to see this made more often.

3. Absolutely in the act of shooting. At the NFHS level, I'm calling this an intentional personal foul. The foul negates an obvious advantageous position by the offensive player.

4. Let the C have this call, which he did. As the Lead, come get it if no call is made by a partner. This is an absolute must have as it is game critical. I don't like the showboating mechanic by the Lead, but I understand why he jumped on this play. The situation in the game (score and time remaining) may have warranted a faster whistle here than any other help situation during a contest.

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

At the NFHS level, I'm calling this an intentional personal foul. The foul negates an obvious advantageous position by the offensive player.

Isn't the "obvious advantageous position" in this play making the shot??

Now if the defender wraps up the guy from behind so he can neither shoot nor move, then we can talk INT/Flagrant.

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Isn't the "obvious advantageous position" in this play making the shot??

Now if the defender wraps up the guy from behind so he can neither shoot nor move, then we can talk INT/Flagrant.

I also think it was continuous motion and only a common foul. He attempted to play the ball and didn't clobber the guy, so for me this is an basket plus a free throw. All the other play I agree with. I thought the foul by #14 was a good get by C. My resolution wasn't great so I guess it could have been a block.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

3. Absolutely in the act of shooting. At the NFHS level, I'm calling this an intentional personal foul. The foul negates an obvious advantageous position by the offensive player.

Wouldn't even enter my mind. I would score the goal, though. I'm also a big fan of having a patient whistle and getting the foul on the shot whenever possible.

[Welpe]

I wouldn't have an intentional here either. It's not excessive contact and I think he is making a clumsy, off balance play on the ball.