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Old Fri Feb 14, 2014, 12:07am
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I am asking a question which is unique to my situation. I am a 20 year old college student who has been registered in my state (Kansas) for 3 years now. I am a 7th year official overall starting with rec ball at a young age. I have received several varsity dates this year and have more assigned to me for next year. My problem is coaching testing me, see how far they can get with me and challenging my calls due to my young age. How do I stop this from happening?
I know exactly what you are saying. I too am 20 years old, and this year did 24 varsity games. I think my biggest challenge has been coaches testing me.
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Old Fri Feb 14, 2014, 12:36am
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It is only natural to expect a certain amount of extra scrutiny when doing a job at a young age. If your performance is good enough, this should take care of itself soon enough. But coaches can/will twist anything into a negative.

On any given night your age can be used against you:

"WHY DID THEY SEND ME THIS ROOKIE?"

against your partner:

"The kid is twelve years old and he's way better than you."

against both of you:

"Hey, kid, take your grandfather and go on home."
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Old Fri Feb 14, 2014, 12:45am
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It is only natural to expect a certain amount of extra scrutiny when doing a job at a young age. If your performance is good enough, this should take care of itself soon enough. But coaches can/will twist anything into a negative.

On any given night your age can be used against you:

"WHY DID THEY SEND ME THIS ROOKIE?"

against your partner:

"The kid is twelve years old and he's way better than you."

against both of you:

"Hey, kid, take your grandfather and go on home."
Funny story about the grandfather thing, Monday I worked with two very veteran officials one 78 the other 76 and they still are in better position then guys I've seen work that are half their age. My problem is with coaches challenging me on every call I make regardless of it was obvious or not. I had a veteran coach chew me every time I ran up and down the court he was a well respected veteran coach and never did it so anyone else could hear it always standing next to me. After the game while walking to our locker rooms he shook my hand and said I did a good job. Testing me alright.
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Old Fri Feb 14, 2014, 10:15am
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Funny story about the grandfather thing, Monday I worked with two very veteran officials one 78 the other 76 and they still are in better position then guys I've seen work that are half their age. My problem is with coaches challenging me on every call I make regardless of it was obvious or not. I had a veteran coach chew me every time I ran up and down the court he was a well respected veteran coach and never did it so anyone else could hear it always standing next to me. After the game while walking to our locker rooms he shook my hand and said I did a good job. Testing me alright.
78 and 76? God bless 'em I still have a future!

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Old Fri Feb 14, 2014, 03:59pm
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78 and 76? God bless 'em
Big Deal. Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. is 99, and he's still working games.
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Old Fri Feb 14, 2014, 10:16am
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Funny story about the grandfather thing, Monday I worked with two very veteran officials one 78 the other 76 and they still are in better position then guys I've seen work that are half their age. My problem is with coaches challenging me on every call I make regardless of it was obvious or not. I had a veteran coach chew me every time I ran up and down the court he was a well respected veteran coach and never did it so anyone else could hear it always standing next to me. After the game while walking to our locker rooms he shook my hand and said I did a good job. Testing me alright.

What state are you from?
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Old Fri Feb 14, 2014, 10:35am
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What state are you from?
OP Says Kansas
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Old Fri Feb 14, 2014, 12:48pm
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No matter your age, they test you. I got into HS refereeing when I was 44 and in my 1st local varsity game, the coach worked me. Learn from it.

The more you work, the better you get, go to camps, do summer leagues.
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Old Fri Feb 14, 2014, 01:52pm
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Certainly a combination of age and lack of familiarity. At least that was the case for me when I broke into V games. Proper play calling, proper mechanics, confidence, using voice, and good sharp whistles show them you're capable of handling the game. Beyond that, they will test you to see what they can get away with, so focus on professional communication, giving short, rules based answers to appropriate questions and then warning/whacking when necessary.
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Monday I worked with two very veteran officials one 78 the other 76
Those are my grandsons.
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