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Old Thu Feb 13, 2014, 03:21am
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Weird situation

Have not been able to get a 'correct' answer when asking officials from my association. What do you guys think?

Ball handler goes up for a lay up and gets fouled. As the ball is going inside the hoop/net and before it leaves the net a team mate of the ball handler jumps up and pulls on the net.

Obviously there is basket interference and no points is awarded, but does the player get one foul shot or two?
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Old Thu Feb 13, 2014, 03:29am
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If you wave off the basket, he gets two free throws. I know what the rule says, but I personally have never seen basket interference called on either team for touching the net, and I wouldn't want to be the first. I'm interested to see what others say about that part.
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Old Thu Feb 13, 2014, 04:45am
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If the ball has already passed through the ring and is in the net, then I am scoring the basket. Gotta use some common sense, but if the pulling down changes the path of the ball then wipe it off and give the kid two FT's and tell the coach the teammate made a stupid play.
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Old Thu Feb 13, 2014, 10:07am
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If you're calling the BI, then the basket was missed. Two shots.
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Old Thu Feb 13, 2014, 12:22pm
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Have not been able to get a 'correct' answer when asking officials from my association. What do you guys think?

Ball handler goes up for a lay up and gets fouled. As the ball is going inside the hoop/net and before it leaves the net a team mate of the ball handler jumps up and pulls on the net.

Obviously there is basket interference and no points is awarded, but does the player get one foul shot or two?
Players cannot pull the net for any reason whatsoever. On your play I have basket interference. No basket, but the foul still stands. Player is shooting 2 free throws.
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Old Thu Feb 13, 2014, 01:05pm
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Had something like this last week. Time running out in the 1st quarter with team A on a fast break. While A1 was in his shooting motion he was fouled before the horn sounded.
The weird situation came in when the ball was still in his had when the horn when off, and when he did shoot it the ball went in. We ended up waving off the basket but sending the player to the line to shoot 2 shots.
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Old Thu Feb 13, 2014, 04:38pm
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Had something like this last week. Time running out in the 1st quarter with team A on a fast break. While A1 was in his shooting motion he was fouled before the horn sounded.
The weird situation came in when the ball was still in his had when the horn when off, and when he did shoot it the ball went in. We ended up waving off the basket but sending the player to the line to shoot 2 shots.
Wouldn't you still count the basket here, under the "continuous motion" rule? I mean, how can you have a foul on an airborne shooter if the result of the shot doesn't matter? Or is that just the rule?
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Old Thu Feb 13, 2014, 04:51pm
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Thanks everyone that is kinda what i thought. At the time, I was the one who called the foul and my partner was the one who called the basket good and the basket interference. He chose to give only one foul shot because we didn't know. The shooting team was up by 20 ish so it did not matter only having one shot.
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Old Thu Feb 13, 2014, 05:19pm
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Wouldn't you still count the basket here, under the "continuous motion" rule? I mean, how can you have a foul on an airborne shooter if the result of the shot doesn't matter? Or is that just the rule?
No. If the shot isn't released before the horn, it cannot count.
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Old Thu Feb 13, 2014, 05:22pm
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Continuous Motion At The End Of A Period ...

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Wouldn't you still count the basket here, under the "continuous motion" rule?
No. The ball was still in his hand when the horn sounded. He's still get his free throws, with no rebounders along the lane, but the field goal won't count if the ball goes in.

If the ball had been released, and in the air, when the horn sounded, then the field goal would count, if the ball went in, and one free throw, with no rebounders, would be given to the shooter.
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Old Thu Feb 13, 2014, 05:25pm
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No. If the shot isn't released before the horn, it cannot count.
That makes sense, it just seems odd that you can having free throws for a shooting foul if the shot itself doesn't count. Seems to me that either the shot counts and you have the free throws, or the shot doesn't count and there are no free throws.
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Old Thu Feb 13, 2014, 05:27pm
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No. The ball was still in his hand when the horn sounded. He's still get his free throws, with no rebounders along the lane, but the field goal won't count if the ball goes in.

If the ball had been released, and in the air, when the horn sounded, then the field goal would count, if the ball went in, and one free throw, with no rebounders, would be given to the shooter.
Okay. Just checking.

He was fouled in the act of shooting, therefore he gets free throws. However, since the ball wasn't released until after the horn sounded it's counted as a missed shot.
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Old Thu Feb 13, 2014, 05:41pm
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Okay. Just checking.

He was fouled in the act of shooting, therefore he gets free throws. However, since the ball wasn't released until after the horn sounded it's counted as a missed shot.
That's assuming you don't have definite knowledge as to how much time was on the clock when the foul occurred.
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Old Thu Feb 13, 2014, 05:45pm
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Okay. Just checking.

He was fouled in the act of shooting, therefore he gets free throws. However, since the ball wasn't released until after the horn sounded it's counted as a missed shot.
I wasn't aware missed shots counted against stats if the shooter was fouled.

Then again, I couldn't care less about stats.
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Old Thu Feb 13, 2014, 07:53pm
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That's assuming you don't have definite knowledge as to how much time was on the clock when the foul occurred.
So what if you know there was... say... .2 seconds on the clock when he was fouled. Do you then count the basket? But if the clock was out when he got the shot off, would the time of the foul matter?

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I wasn't aware missed shots counted against stats if the shooter was fouled.

Then again, I couldn't care less about stats.
Oh, I don't care about stats, so I didn't mean to go there with that. I was only speaking in terms of how we handle things.
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