Wish me luck!

[JRutledge]

How did t go? Or is it over yet?

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[jeremy341a]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

How did t go? Or is it over yet?

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From a fans standpoint it was a good game. There were several lead changes with the the final score being a 4 point game.

From an officiating standpoint it went well but there were a few instances where we made a mistake. I missed an OOB call where as the T on the press the girl dribbled on the sideline under pressure from two defenders. I had the rear defender and the girl dribbling between me and the ball. Apparently she dribbled on the sideline. Of course this happened within 2 feet of the opposing coach.

The big mistake (near mistake) of the night was the "almost blarge". I am T and girl is dribbling on the wing behind the 3 point line on my side. She drives to the middle of the floor and there is contact with her primary defender between the 3 point line and free throw line. I hit my whistle and put my fist in the air. I start the fist point the other way and about halfway through I see my partner coming out signalling block. I let my arm drop midway through punch. We come together. He tells me it was block bc on the side opposite of me defender extended her knee into the defender. He reports the foul. Coach wants explanation bc he seen me. He is given explanation. He takes that fine but was upset about girl dribbling on line, which wasn't my partners line. Of course these happened on back to back plays.

Other negative note of the night was a girl after catching the ball near the free throw line went down with what appeared to be a serious knee injury. As soon as her legs planted to stop, it bucked and she was in severe pain. I hope not but it looked to be a classic ACL injury.

[Nevadaref]

Why are you using the punch signal for a player control foul?
That's the signal for a team control foul.

If you signal and so does your partner, BY RULE, you report a double foul and resume at POI.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Why are you using the punch signal for a player control foul?
That's the signal for a team control foul.

If you signal and so does your partner, BY RULE, you report a double foul and resume at POI.

They're only different fouls due to legacy....from the time when the penalties were not the same. Under the current rules, there is nothing about PC that isn't (or can't) be covered by TC. They're both fouls by a player of the team in control of the ball. PC is just specific to one of the players. PC does include the airborne shooter but that clause could just as easily be moved to the TC rule.

As for why someone punches for a PC foul, our state has approved that signal. No one thinks the hand behind the head signal is any good. It is the weakest signal in the book for one of the biggest calls.

Agree on the double foul result.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

The're only different fouls due to legacy....from the time when the penalties were not the same. Under the current rules, there is nothing about PC that isn't (or can't) be covered by PC. They're both fouls by a player of the team in control of the ball. PC is just specific to one of the players. PC does include the airborne shooter but that clause could just as easily be moved to the TC rule.

As for why someone punches for a PC foul, our state has approved that signal. No one thinks the head behind the hand signal is any good. It is the weakest signal in the book for one of the biggest calls.

Agree on the double foul result.

Been one of those days, huh?

[Nevadaref]

Hey Camron,
Have you seen the NFHS survey posted by BillyMac? The punch signal is listed in part 3.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Been one of those days, huh?

Yup. At least I can feel good about catching those and a couple more you didn't catch before you posted.

Here is a picture of what I had in mind:

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

If you signal and so does your partner, BY RULE, you report a double foul and resume at POI.

Could you quote the rule?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Could you quote the rule?

Try fishing for one of the newbies. I'm not biting.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Try fishing for one of the newbies. I'm not biting.

Actually, the OP brings up a serious question. The case play now reads that one official rules this and the other rules that.

In the OP the officials made conflicting rulings. We know this because one made the signal and the other told us what his ruling was. Why are they not obligated to report both fouls regardless of what signals were or were not made? I have never heard an answer to this question, satisfactory or not.

[JRutledge]

And you are the only one not understanding this too.

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