ref the defense

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Travel?

I've never called a foul when a player travels....referee the defense is a technique for refereeing contact/fouls, not violations.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I've never called a foul when a player travels.

How would you know that he traveled if "there is very little the offensive player can do that you need to watch"?

Of course, if by "very little" you meant traveling, then your original statement is copasetic.

Just because there is a light at the end of the tunnel doesn't mean that we should have tunnel vision.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

How would you know that he traveled if "there is very little the offensive player can do that you need to watch"?

Of course, if by "very little" you meant traveling, then your original statement is copasetic.

Just because there is a light at the end of the tunnel doesn't mean that we should have tunnel vision.

The point is that "referee the defense" is a technique or adjudicating fouls without commenting on other possible things that need to be watched....and the "very little" allows for the other miscellaneous stuff.

[centkyref]

Had a block/charge play last night; pretty easy call because I refereed the defense (thanks to you on this board for clarifying the concept). Found the defender, saw the contact, made the charge call.

I reported the foul, and ended up right in the coach's lap as new C tableside. He asked why the call went that way since the contact wasn't square to the chest. I replied that it doesn't have to be square to chest contact and asked him what the defender did wrong.

"Well, he was still moving!"
"...Sorry coach, didn't see it that way...If it happened the way you say, maybe I missed it. But I don't think so."

He laughed and said, "Well you seem confident in it"

Nice guy, doesn't say a whole lot and gets a lot out of his team even when they aren't overly talented.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by centkyref

"Well, he was still moving!"
"...Sorry coach, didn't see it that way...If it happened the way you say, maybe I missed it. But I don't think so."

He laughed and said, "Well you seem confident in it"

Nice guy, doesn't say a whole lot and gets a lot out of his team even when they aren't overly talented.

And if you did see it his way, you are calling a block? What does moving have to do with calling a PC foul or a blocking foul?

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by centkyref

Had a block/charge play last night; pretty easy call because I refereed the defense (thanks to you on this board for clarifying the concept). Found the defender, saw the contact, made the charge call.

I reported the foul, and ended up right in the coach's lap as new C tableside. He asked why the call went that way since the contact wasn't square to the chest. I replied that it doesn't have to be square to chest contact and asked him what the defender did wrong.

"Well, he was still moving!"

Me: "He's allowed to once he has legal guarding position."

or, if I'm not feeling verbally generous,
"He's allowed to by rule"

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Adam

Me: "He's allowed to once he has legal guarding position."

or, if I'm not feeling verbally generous,
"He's allowed to by rule"

I don't know if the play being talked about involved an airborne shooter or if it was s dribbler. That, as you know, affects what kind of movement is legal.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

How would you know that he traveled if "there is very little the offensive player can do that you need to watch"?
....

It will be an obvious violation that I can catch with my peripheral. But, I'm more concerned about the defense if there is a potential crash in the making.