Marcus Smart shove - OK State/Texas Tech (Video)

[ronny mulkey]

Originally Posted by maroonx

How does one hear a racial slur wrong? I need an example. This has no place in sports one of the few places in life where there is an equal playing field.

Maroon,

It's called deflection. I screwed up and I'm looking for support. The race card being played when convenient. It's like finding Jesus when convenient.

If a racial slur was thrown, let administration deal with it. There is no excuse for a player going into the stands and assaulting a fan.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by ronny mulkey

Maroon,

It's called deflection. I screwed up and I'm looking for support. The race card being played when convenient. It's like finding Jesus when convenient.

If a racial slur was thrown, let administration deal with it. There is no excuse for a player going into the stands and assaulting a fan.

What? Race card?

There are not many things in life people react that way to. And if he went to the guy that said something to him, then there you go.

But it is also those that would say those kinds of things, do not want to publicly be known as a racist. One of the biggest things I notice amongst a certain group of people is they cannot stand to be called that even when they have used or said things inapproriate. Just look at our politics and the things said about our President, and the people that made the specific comments that clearly have a history run from the claim of being called a racist. Even if it was clearly on tape he likely would have ran from it as people around him might have not dealt with him in the same way. He has a lot to lose. And I love how being called something makes that person playing a "card." It would be no different if he was called a "Piece of s h i t," that is sitll very inapproprate, but does not have any other implications.

Sorry, I do not believe the "fan." I think he said something or he knows who said it and does not want to be associated with that label more than anything.

Peace

[maroonx]

If the fan was immediately punished like Marcus. No argument from me. But he was not because he is White. If it was a white player and a black fan, the black fan would be arrested immediately. And you know that's is a fact.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by maroonx

If the fan was immediately punished like Marcus. No argument from me. But he was not because he is White. If it was a white player and a black fan, the black fan would be arrested immediately. And you know that's is a fact.

White players wouldn't do this because they can control their emotions and have more character .

Not everything between individuals of 2 different skin color needs to be a color issue. Speculating does nothing more than add fuel to the fire and perpetuate the same bs over and over again. [/end politics on officials forum]

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by maroonx

If the fan was immediately punished like Marcus. No argument from me. But he was not because he is White. If it was a white player and a black fan, the black fan would be arrested immediately. And you know that's is a fact.

I think it would depend if they were a big donor to the university or not. And it appears this guy does more than just support the team by coming to the games only.

Peace

[letemplay]

Originally Posted by maroonx

If the fan was immediately punished like Marcus. No argument from me. But he was not because he is White. If it was a white player and a black fan, the black fan would be arrested immediately. And you know that's is a fact.

Are you serious? I don't know you, and/or don't know of your posting history...but really, are you being sarcastic here?

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by letemplay

Are you serious? I don't know you, and/or don't know of your posting history...but really, are you being sarcastic here?

Let's head this discussion off at the pass before it gets going. Nothing productive is going to come from continuing this path of discussion.

[letemplay]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Let's head this discussion off at the pass before it gets going. Nothing productive is going to come from continuing this path of discussion.

10/4...I'll take it down a different path and say this:

Smart is a senior, I believe, having played 4 years now. He is also a star, having been I think the conference freshman of the year, POY, and a so called possible lottery pick. This fan, referred to by some as a Super fan, has probably had this same seat near under the basket, as video's have shown from past games, during Smart's time. Assuming then that he's played there 3 times before Saturday, is there a possibility Smart already knew of this guy, maybe had heard some stuff from him in another game? I'll bet it's no stretch this fan singles out the opposing teams best players and tries to start something and get under their skin. Every team's got somebody like that, but clearly this guy has taken it further than most fans, and probably did Saturday. Anyone else think it's probably not the first time Smart has experienced this kind of treatment? Not condoning his actions/reaction at all.

[CountTheBasket]

Originally Posted by letemplay

10/4...I'll take it down a different path and say this:

Smart is a senior, I believe, having played 4 years now. He is also a star, having been I think the conference freshman of the year, POY, and a so called possible lottery pick. This fan, referred to by some as a Super fan, has probably had this same seat near under the basket, as video's have shown from past games, during Smart's time. Assuming then that he's played there 3 times before Saturday, is there a possibility Smart already knew of this guy, maybe had heard some stuff from him in another game? I'll bet it's no stretch this fan singles out the opposing teams best players and tries to start something and get under their skin. Every team's got somebody like that, but clearly this guy has taken it further than most fans, and probably did Saturday. Anyone else think it's probably not the first time Smart has experienced this kind of treatment? Not condoning his actions/reaction at all.

Smart is a sophmore.

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by letemplay

10/4...I'll take it down a different path and say this:

Smart is a senior, I believe, having played 4 years now. He is also a star, having been I think the conference freshman of the year, POY, and a so called possible lottery pick. This fan, referred to by some as a Super fan, has probably had this same seat near under the basket, as video's have shown from past games, during Smart's time. Assuming then that he's played there 3 times before Saturday, is there a possibility Smart already knew of this guy, maybe had heard some stuff from him in another game? I'll bet it's no stretch this fan singles out the opposing teams best players and tries to start something and get under their skin. Every team's got somebody like that, but clearly this guy has taken it further than most fans, and probably did Saturday. Anyone else think it's probably not the first time Smart has experienced this kind of treatment? Not condoning his actions/reaction at all.

Check your facts. Smart is a sophomore.

[just another ref]

As others have said, no matter what the fan said, it doesn't come close to justifying the reaction. We may never know what was said. As far as the fan, who knows? He may be a psycho who just loses it at games, and he may be cold and calculating and works at shouting the most inflammatory thing possible to unnerve the opposing player, which certainly worked here. Even if it was a racial remark, the guy may or may not be a racist. No matter what was said, was any law broken here? Whether there was or not, this is not an officiating issue.