Delay Of Game ...

[BillyMac]

Sometimes it's the simplest things that get me confused.

A1 has designated spot throwin. B1 is aggressively defending the throwin, to the point of reaching over the boundary line. As I'm just about to sound my whistle for a delay warning (no previous warning), A1 releases the ball for the throwin and B1 reaches across the boundary and knocks the passed ball away. Since I was about to charge the delay, I went with a delay warning, and had a do-over.

I know that if B1 hit the ball out of A1's hands, it would be a technical foul. I also know that if B1 hit A1 on the hand before the ball was passed, it would be a intentional foul.

Did I handle this correctly? I know that I should know this, but I'm drawing a blank. I hate it when I question myself on the simplest things, but I would appreciate some closure here. I can't find this specific situation in the casebook. Maybe it's there, but I can't find it.

[Raymond]

I'm quite sure there is something in the rule book about a defender reaching over the throw-in plane and touching a released pass.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I'm quite sure there is something in the rule book about a defender reaching over the throw-in plane and touching a released pass.

For a defender to touch the released pass while the ball is still over OOB area is legal. (9-2-10)
For the offense to do so is illegal.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Freddy

For a defender to touch the released pass while the ball is still over OOB area is legal. (9-2-10)

Bingo. There it is, the reason why this play confused me. So my instinct to charge the delay of game, for over the boundary, before the release, was correct. If the defender had waited to go over the boundary until after the release, then I've going nothing, unless the ball goes out of bounds, and then it's just an out of bounds violation.

I was lucky this time, but it still continues my streak of thirty-three years and never making a bad call.

[Rob1968]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Bingo. There it is, the reason why this play confused me. So my instinct to charge the delay of game, for over the boundary, before the release, was correct. If the defender had waited to go over the boundary until after the release, then I've going nothing, unless the ball goes out of bounds, and then it's just an out of bounds violation.

I was lucky this time, but it still continues my streak of thirty-three years and never making a bad call.

Now, if after a score, the defender reaches over the OOB plane, and touches a pass between his opponents' teammates, it is illegal.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by Rob1968

Now, if after a score, the defender reaches over the OOB plane, and touches a pass between his opponents' teammates, it is illegal.

Correct. Then it's the same as the defender reaching across to touch the ball while still in the in-bounder's hands -- a team technical.

The situation cited above is, BTW, why it's important to train officials never to casually leave the endline prior to the actual release of the inbounds pass. This habit, if engrained by casuality or indifference, will carry over to that rare occasion when the need to observe these kinds of plays and violations arises. The fallback to guessing will kick a guy in the butt. Therefore, trail--be trail. Don't leave that endline early on a throw-in.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I'm quite sure there is something in the rule book about a defender reaching over the throw-in plane and touching a released pass.

Legal in NFHS (had it in a game on Friday night), but illegal in NCAA.