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Old Thu Jan 30, 2014, 03:37pm
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What would the reaction be if the student section were chanting the N word?
Same. I'd get game management. I wouldn't whack the team for the behavior of some students in the bleachers.
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Old Thu Jan 30, 2014, 03:38pm
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Same. I'd get game management. I wouldn't whack the team for the behavior of some students in the bleachers.
Agree 100%.
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Old Thu Jan 30, 2014, 03:40pm
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What would the reaction be if the student section were chanting the N word?
Tell GM that someone's got to go...or the whole section is going.
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Old Thu Jan 30, 2014, 03:58pm
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What would the reaction be if the student section were chanting the N word?
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Same. I'd get game management. I wouldn't whack the team for the behavior of some students in the bleachers.
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Tell GM that someone's got to go...or the whole section is going.
Agreed. The only difference is it wouldn't take me a few seconds to get the reference.
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Old Thu Jan 30, 2014, 04:01pm
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What would the reaction be if the student section were chanting the N word?
We all know the emotion that word brings into a room. The havec that would ensue following it would be legendary. If you think you can sneak in two free throws in between the complete a$$ beatings that are happening all over the gym; you are good!
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Old Thu Jan 30, 2014, 04:20pm
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What would the reaction be if the student section were chanting the N word?
I think the person that said that would have bigger problems than whether we gave them a T or not.

Again, not in the same ballpark as the OP situation in any way.

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Old Thu Jan 30, 2014, 04:22pm
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I think the person that said that would have bigger problems than whether we gave them a T or not.

Again, not in the same ballpark as the OP situation in any way.

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Old Thu Jan 30, 2014, 04:47pm
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What would the reaction be if the student section were chanting the N word?
I know earlier I said I would ignore any fan chant and allow game managment to hear it and handle it on their own but I guess I didn't consider the extreme. That being said, I cannot imagine a scenario where the game managment isn't all over something like this before I even can turn to look at them. Still wouldn't T tho, just get the offender out, entire section if needed.

Just to throw another angle out there, what if a chant was directed towards you as the official? Would you acknowledge (get game managment, or T if you feel that route is appropriate) in that situation. This discussion reminded me of a state playoff game I played in when I was in HS, opponents student section chanted "A rope, a tree, hang the referee!" for a solid 20-30 secs.
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I know earlier I said I would ignore any fan chant and allow game managment to hear it and handle it on their own but I guess I didn't consider the extreme. That being said, I cannot imagine a scenario where the game managment isn't all over something like this before I even can turn to look at them. Still wouldn't T tho, just get the offender out, entire section if needed.

Just to throw another angle out there, what if a chant was directed towards you as the official? Would you acknowledge (get game managment, or T if you feel that route is appropriate) in that situation. This discussion reminded me of a state playoff game I played in when I was in HS, opponents student section chanted "A rope, a tree, hang the referee!" for a solid 20-30 secs.
We said that all the time in high school. I'd probably laugh. Actually, the chant is, "A rope. A tree. All we need is a referee."
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Old Thu Jan 30, 2014, 04:55pm
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We said that all the time in high school. I'd probably laugh. Actually, the chant is, "A rope. A tree. All we need is a referee."
Haha me as well, that is the only time I ever heard that in my life though. I went to high school outside of Philadelphia and this game was somewhere in Central PA....I remember on the way home us all saying "these country kids are crazy!!!"
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I know earlier I said I would ignore any fan chant and allow game managment to hear it and handle it on their own but I guess I didn't consider the extreme. That being said, I cannot imagine a scenario where the game managment isn't all over something like this before I even can turn to look at them. Still wouldn't T tho, just get the offender out, entire section if needed.

Just to throw another angle out there, what if a chant was directed towards you as the official? Would you acknowledge (get game managment, or T if you feel that route is appropriate) in that situation. This discussion reminded me of a state playoff game I played in when I was in HS, opponents student section chanted "A rope, a tree, hang the referee!" for a solid 20-30 secs.
I do nothing. I have on rare occasion acknowledged a few clever one's at a time-out. When cell phones became more popular I heard one kid say "Hey Ref, I found your cell phone and it has 3 missed calls!" I looked at him and said, "That's was a good one"
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The point I was trying to make is when is enough enough? and Do you really consider racism to be something that is judged on a level of mild to severe and only what you would consider racist?

To me its like and OOB call, either their foot is on the line or it isn't. There is no grey.
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Old Thu Jan 30, 2014, 06:53pm
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It's not even the right comparison, if you want to try to make such a thing.
I think maybe the point is that most of us would still not call a T on the crowd, even if the OP was carried to a greater extreme, which the later example clearly is.
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Old Thu Jan 30, 2014, 07:11pm
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I think maybe the point is that most of us would still not call a T on the crowd, even if the OP was carried to a greater extreme, which the later example clearly is.
When I played in HS we had a player who got drunk during school, and got caught. He got suspended for 3 days and missed a game. His first game back we are playing on the road at a rival. First time he goes to the line (and all other times thereafter) the crowd chanted "Alcoholic"

Even as his teammate, I thought it was clever and funny. We ended up winning.
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