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Old Thu Jan 30, 2014, 03:19am
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One needs to decide what one stands for in life. This is HS sports in which we open every game by addressing sporting behavior with the coaches and captains.

I really wouldn't feel one bit bad about penalizing a school's team for a racist chant from it's student section. The only thing which would send a stronger message would be to stop and forfeit the contest. That is what is happening in European soccer matches when the crowd gets racial with the players.

Sports is a part of life with one of several purposes being to teach people about how to interact with others. Think about the reason behind having the modern Olympic Games. I have decided to put the principles of character and civil behavior above the competitive aspects of a sporting contest. In the grand scheme, the game and any penalties suffered within it are secondary to the life lessons taken from it.
If your state or your association makes this decision, fine.

If you're making this decision on your own, you're a loose cannon.
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Old Thu Jan 30, 2014, 09:32am
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If your state or your association makes this decision, fine.

If you're making this decision on your own, you're a loose cannon.
You are in good company Nevada: Martin Luther, Benjamin Franklin, Patrick Henry, Thomas Jefferson, Rosa Parks, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
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Old Thu Jan 30, 2014, 09:49am
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I would address this with GM and a Special Report to the state. I cannot see myself doing much more than that if I happened to pick up on the chant and the context. Usually in my experience if this is a student section, there are adults already on top of things like this before we even have to deal with this at all.

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Old Thu Jan 30, 2014, 09:50am
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You are in good company Nevada: Martin Luther, Benjamin Franklin, Patrick Henry, Thomas Jefferson, Rosa Parks, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
Did you really compare this situation to anything those people were directly involved in? Seriously?

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Old Thu Jan 30, 2014, 12:51pm
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Did you really compare this situation to anything those people were directly involved in? Seriously?

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No. I compared being called a loose cannon early in a 'cause', which is an attempt to shout down/discourage Nevada's point, to the same negative reactions these persons faced for their 'causes'. 'Causes' that would have been forgotten had they not stuck to it.
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Old Thu Jan 30, 2014, 01:10pm
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No. I compared being called a loose cannon early in a 'cause', which is an attempt to shout down/discourage Nevada's point, to the same negative reactions these persons faced for their 'causes'. 'Causes' that would have been forgotten had they not stuck to it.
I do not think anyone is trying to start a war or assasinate someone on this board for a position. Fine if he wants to T up the crowd, but I do not think they are going to change laws because he is making that attempt or a governor is going to stand in between him if he does so. I think that is a little different, but maybe you will not see that point.

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Old Thu Jan 30, 2014, 01:15pm
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I do not think anyone is trying to start a war or assasinate someone on this board for a position. Fine if he wants to T up the crowd, but I do not think they are going to change laws because he is making that attempt or a governor is going to stand in between him if he does so. I think that is a little different, but maybe you will not see that point.

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I agree.

The comparison is ridiculous, and I think Nevada would agree.
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Old Thu Jan 30, 2014, 01:15pm
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No. I compared being called a loose cannon early in a 'cause', which is an attempt to shout down/discourage Nevada's point, to the same negative reactions these persons faced for their 'causes'. 'Causes' that would have been forgotten had they not stuck to it.
Holy.

Crap.

MLK, Jr. was assassinated.

Luther was excommunicated.

Henry was executed.

Parks was arrested.

Nevada had someone disagree with him on an internet forum.

Get real.
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Old Thu Jan 30, 2014, 01:43pm
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Holy.

Crap.

MLK, Jr. was assassinated.

Luther was excommunicated.

Henry was executed.

Parks was arrested.

Nevada had someone disagree with him on an internet forum.

Get real.
Well, it is possible that 3 of the above 4 things have happened to Nevada!

But I'm not going to start any rumors.
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Old Thu Jan 30, 2014, 03:28pm
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What would the reaction be if the student section were chanting the N word?
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Old Thu Jan 30, 2014, 01:17pm
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No. I compared being called a loose cannon early in a 'cause', which is an attempt to shout down/discourage Nevada's point, to the same negative reactions these persons faced for their 'causes'. 'Causes' that would have been forgotten had they not stuck to it.
No one is trying to shout Nevada down.
1. It's not possible.
2. It's not necessary.

We are, however, expressing our disagreement with him. The fact that the disagreement is nearly universal does not mean we're trying to silence him.
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Old Thu Jan 30, 2014, 10:05am
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You are in good company Nevada: Martin Luther, Benjamin Franklin, Patrick Henry, Thomas Jefferson, Rosa Parks, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
Umm....what?!
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It's a little known fact that Thomas Jefferson was quick on the trigger with the technical fouls and he often called the second one, too.
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Old Thu Jan 30, 2014, 10:29am
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So the consensus seems to be that we would NOT assess a T here for racial chants.

We will however assess a T should a fan (or fans) run on the court?

What's the lesson?
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Old Thu Jan 30, 2014, 10:37am
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So the consensus seems to be that we would NOT assess a T here for racial chants.

We will however assess a T should a fan (or fans) run on the court?

What's the lesson?
Don't run onto the court.
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