Next Game's Official Interfering

[JetMetFan]

NFHS case play 10-1-8

Immediately following a goal or free throw by Team A, A1 inbounds the ball to A2 and A2 subsequently throws the ball through A's basket.

RULING: The following procedure has been adopted to handle this specific situation if it is recognized before the opponents gain control or before the next throw-in begins: (a) charge Team A with an unsporting technical foul; (b) assess a delay-of-game warning for interfering with the ball after a goal; (c) cancel the field goal; (d) cancel any common foul(s) committed and any non-flagrant foul against A2 in the act of shooting; and (e) put "consumed" time back on the clock.

COMMENT: If there is no doubt the throw-in was a result of confusion, the entire procedure would be followed except no unsporting team technical foul would be charged. A team technical would be assessed if the team had received a previous delay warning. This procedure shall not be used in any other throw-in situation in which an official administers the throw-in and a mistake allows the wrong team to inbound the ball. (4-47-3; 7-6-6; 10-1-5d)

[Nevadaref]

1. What JMF posted.
2. Tell the official for the next game that his help is not needed. If he persists, have him escorted out of the gym. That should fix his attitude.

[BryanV21]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

NFHS case play 10-1-8

Immediately following a goal or free throw by Team A, A1 inbounds the ball to A2 and A2 subsequently throws the ball through A's basket.

RULING: The following procedure has been adopted to handle this specific situation if it is recognized before the opponents gain control or before the next throw-in begins: (a) charge Team A with an unsporting technical foul; (b) assess a delay-of-game warning for interfering with the ball after a goal; (c) cancel the field goal; (d) cancel any common foul(s) committed and any non-flagrant foul against A2 in the act of shooting; and (e) put "consumed" time back on the clock.

COMMENT: If there is no doubt the throw-in was a result of confusion, the entire procedure would be followed except no unsporting team technical foul would be charged. A team technical would be assessed if the team had received a previous delay warning. This procedure shall not be used in any other throw-in situation in which an official administers the throw-in and a mistake allows the wrong team to inbound the ball. (4-47-3; 7-6-6; 10-1-5d)

This case situation does not apply to the OP, as this states Team A makes the free throw and inbounds the ball afterwards. But in the OP, Team A makes the free throw and Team B inbounds the ball.

That seems to be why there is confusion about giving Team A a technical foul.

My question is this...

Since this is not a correctable error, as only free throws attempted at the wrong basket are correctable, should all points be counted and go from the POI?

1. Team V gets the point for the free throw.
2. Team V is awarded points for Team H making a field goal in the wrong basket (it is not awarded to any player, but a note is made in the scorebook to explain the points scored).
3. Team V is awarded points for their made field goal, even though it should have been Team H's ball.
4. Play is stopped, and both teams are reminded which basket they're are shooting at, to make sure there is no more confusion.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe we can take away any points scored unless a correctable error is made and caught within the right time frame to make it right.

[youngump]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

This case situation does not apply to the OP, as this states Team A makes the free throw and inbounds the ball afterwards. But in the OP, Team A makes the free throw and Team B inbounds the ball.

That seems to be why there is confusion about giving Team A a technical foul.

My question is this...

Since this is not a correctable error, as only free throws attempted at the wrong basket are correctable, should all points be counted and go from the POI?

1. Team V gets the point for the free throw.
2. Team V is awarded points for Team H making a field goal in the wrong basket (it is not awarded to any player, but a note is made in the scorebook to explain the points scored).
3. Team V is awarded points for their made field goal, even though it should have been Team H's ball.
4. Play is stopped, and both teams are reminded which basket they're are shooting at, to make sure there is no more confusion.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe we can take away any points scored unless a correctable error is made and caught within the right time frame to make it right.

Team V didn't make a field goal. They threw a dead ball through the hoop. That's delay of game. That's the point of the case play. (As I read it).

[BryanV21]

Originally Posted by youngump

Team V didn't make a field goal. They threw a dead ball through the hoop. That's delay of game. That's the point of the case play. (As I read it).

Maybe I'm not understanding the OP scenario, because it sounds like Team B was really screwed up. The way I read it Team V makes a free throw in Basket V, then Team H in bounds ball under Basket V and makes a field goal in Basket V. So they really shot and made a basket in the goal they just took the ball out underneath? The same basket Team V shot their free throw at?

[youngump]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

Maybe I'm not understanding the OP scenario, because it sounds like Team B was really screwed up. The way I read it Team V makes a free throw in Basket V, then Team H in bounds ball under Basket V and makes a field goal in Basket V. So they really shot and made a basket in the goal they just took the ball out underneath? The same basket Team V shot their free throw at?

That's how I read it. The follow on from where you left it: having just scored a basket for V the ball belongs to H. At that point V grabbed the ball (delay of game warning) and threw the dead ball through the hoop. That one doesn't count.

[Treeguy]

A couple possessions before when V was shooting free throws, the point guard got into the lower block and was talking to his teammate across the lane like they were planning on shooting on the wrong basket. Nothing happen that time, but the free throw in the OP, they were talking like let's really do it. I was not closely listening to them, but I feel that they planned this. That is why I am asking about the T.

[BryanV21]

Fixing it like that makes sense, as it's fair. However, it doesn't seem to jive with the rule regarding correctable errors.

This is an official's mistake, for allowing it to happen, and therefore should fall under the correctable rules.

The one case book situation cited here doesn't fit this situation, as that refers to Team A shooting the free throw AND inbounding the ball. So where is the rule or case to make it clear that this is right?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

This case situation does not apply to the OP, as this states Team A makes the free throw and inbounds the ball afterwards. But in the OP, Team A makes the free throw and Team B inbounds the ball.

That seems to be why there is confusion about giving Team A a technical foul.

My question is this...

Since this is not a correctable error, as only free throws attempted at the wrong basket are correctable, should all points be counted and go from the POI?

1. Team V gets the point for the free throw.
2. Team V is awarded points for Team H making a field goal in the wrong basket (it is not awarded to any player, but a note is made in the scorebook to explain the points scored).

Both of those are correct.

3. Team V is awarded points for their made field goal, even though it should have been Team H's ball.
4. Play is stopped, and both teams are reminded which basket they're are shooting at, to make sure there is no more confusion.

Incorrect (esp. point 3). V shouldn't have inbounded, H should have inbounded again. IF you can recognize it in time, stop it before V "scores." If you don't then stop it afterwards and cancel the points, get everyone straightened out, let H inbound the ball and resume play.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

This case situation does not apply to the OP, as this states Team A makes the free throw and inbounds the ball afterwards. But in the OP, Team A makes the free throw and Team B inbounds the ball.

It actually does apply. The screw-up was that after Team A scored on itself, Team B inbounded the ball which isn't correct. Team A should've inbounded the ball again...after being reminded to go shoot at the hoop on the other end of the court.