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Next Game's Official Interfering
Freshman boys. Less than a minute left in the game, home up by 30. V shooting free throws, hits the second, H1 passes to H2 who shoots at the wrong basket and makes, I believe done on purpose. V1 takes the ball, immediately throws it to V2 who scores. That did not look right, so I blow my whistle and had to think about what just happened. I realize that it should have been H's ball underneath after they scored, so I wave off the last basket and I go up to the table and let them know what I have. As I was explaining it, the official waiting for the JV comes up behind the table yelling NO NO NO saying V34 gets the basket. I don't think he realize I was just disallowing the last shot.
So my questions are; 1. Am I correct in disallowing the second shot? and 2. WTF? |
NFHS case play 10-1-8
Immediately following a goal or free throw by Team A, A1 inbounds the ball to A2 and A2 subsequently throws the ball through A's basket. RULING: The following procedure has been adopted to handle this specific situation if it is recognized before the opponents gain control or before the next throw-in begins: (a) charge Team A with an unsporting technical foul; (b) assess a delay-of-game warning for interfering with the ball after a goal; (c) cancel the field goal; (d) cancel any common foul(s) committed and any non-flagrant foul against A2 in the act of shooting; and (e) put "consumed" time back on the clock. COMMENT: If there is no doubt the throw-in was a result of confusion, the entire procedure would be followed except no unsporting team technical foul would be charged. A team technical would be assessed if the team had received a previous delay warning. This procedure shall not be used in any other throw-in situation in which an official administers the throw-in and a mistake allows the wrong team to inbound the ball. (4-47-3; 7-6-6; 10-1-5d) |
1. What JMF posted.
2. Tell the official for the next game that his help is not needed. If he persists, have him escorted out of the gym. That should fix his attitude. |
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Instead, white takes it out and white scores. Now at this point is where you actually stopped the game and get everyone pointed the right way. Am I reading this right? If so, sounds like complete confusion. This is exactly why we do lower level games, so we can see the crazy plays that we don't see at the higher levels, often. |
I was watching the end of a LONG-running JV game a few weeks ago -- less than a minute left and I had the next game.
The officials *properly* called a flagrant foul on a late game fouling situation where the B player checked the A ball-handler into the scorer's table. I was pleasantly surprised that they did the right thing there. Then after a LONG discussion, they awarded A 4 free throws. Like flies to a moth, I had at least 3 people associated with the varsity teams come over to me (I was standing in the corner of the gym waiting with the two teams about to take the floor) and tell me I needed to fix that, that I needed to help them. One was an assistant varsity coach, I think, and I shook my head and said, "Can't do that. Sorry." Then I walked out of the gym to "stretch." Would I have answered a question if the JV officials had asked me? Sure. Will I step into their game uninvited? No way. |
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Me: "Thank you for being a fan of freshman basketball." |
V34 was the closest player to the first basket.
The home team only had 7 players who played the whole game, I believe they knew what they were doing. Could I have counted the first basket, give the H team a T, then shoot 2 and give the ball to back to the V? |
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The V team was confused, so don't penalize them for inbounding after they were awarded points. |
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V makes a free throw. Proper thrower is H, actual thrower is H. H scores at V's basket. Proper thrower is H, actual thrower is V. V scores and play is stopped by the referee. The only team who has improperly taken a throw-in is V. I don't see how you get to a T for H. You should cancel the last shot by V2 only, issue V a delay of game warning, and add time if known. If you feel V should have been aware it was not their throw-in, issue a T. |
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That seems to be why there is confusion about giving Team A a technical foul. My question is this... Since this is not a correctable error, as only free throws attempted at the wrong basket are correctable, should all points be counted and go from the POI? 1. Team V gets the point for the free throw. 2. Team V is awarded points for Team H making a field goal in the wrong basket (it is not awarded to any player, but a note is made in the scorebook to explain the points scored). 3. Team V is awarded points for their made field goal, even though it should have been Team H's ball. 4. Play is stopped, and both teams are reminded which basket they're are shooting at, to make sure there is no more confusion. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe we can take away any points scored unless a correctable error is made and caught within the right time frame to make it right. |
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