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Old Tue Jan 21, 2014, 02:29pm
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3) Hold hand up - verbally ASK T for help. wait for T to either give a direction or go to a alternate possession signal.
This is how I do it too.

I was also taught that if you're the one being asked, come out strong and firm - like you saw it, have the call, and are confident. Don't want to be wishy-washy or seem indecisive.
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Old Tue Jan 21, 2014, 02:36pm
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Depends on my partner

I'f I'm with my regular partner, we have a system. Hold the hand up, eye contact means HELP. If he knows, he makes the call. If he doesn't, he shrugs and I make the AP call. Working with someone different, I verbalize a 'help' if I need to.
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Old Tue Jan 21, 2014, 02:41pm
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This is how I do it too.

I was also taught that if you're the one being asked, come out strong and firm - like you saw it, have the call, and are confident. Don't want to be wishy-washy or seem indecisive.
And if you don't have it, go right to C (or T, if C is the one being asked).

And, I agree that a "look" can be asking for help, as long as both individuals are aware of this.
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Old Tue Jan 21, 2014, 03:04pm
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Whistle plus 'stop clock' mechanic; loudly ask for "Help!" while looking directly at my partner; partner loudly verbalizes color and gives directional signal.
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Old Tue Jan 21, 2014, 03:51pm
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My partner did this from L at a camp...neither of us (I was C and it went out near the opposite corner) saw who touched it last. We went by the book and went to the arrow. During the video session with the evaluator afterwards we were told, in a rather matter of fact tone, that we should NEVER leave our partner hanging. "Give him the direction!" When we asked what we should do if we didn't know he just yelled "GIVE HIM THE DIRECTION!"

Okay...not sure I agree with this approach...but Okay.
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Old Thu Jan 23, 2014, 12:49am
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My partner did this from L at a camp...neither of us (I was C and it went out near the opposite corner) saw who touched it last. We went by the book and went to the arrow. During the video session with the evaluator afterwards we were told, in a rather matter of fact tone, that we should NEVER leave our partner hanging. "Give him the direction!" When we asked what we should do if we didn't know he just yelled "GIVE HIM THE DIRECTION!"

Okay...not sure I agree with this approach...but Okay.
I think everyone in our area went to this camp. Everytime, I see an official look for help on an out-of-bounds play, the other official always sees it and gives him a direction. It's uncanny. I haven't seen an alternating possession in this situation in years. Sometimes, I want to argue with the partner that "there's no way you saw that clearly", but they do such a darn good job selling it with authority. Darn!
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Old Thu Jan 23, 2014, 08:13am
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I think everyone in our area went to this camp. Everytime, I see an official look for help on an out-of-bounds play, the other official always sees it and gives him a direction. It's uncanny. I haven't seen an alternating possession in this situation in years. Sometimes, I want to argue with the partner that "there's no way you saw that clearly", but they do such a darn good job selling it with authority. Darn!
Here's a hint about this. There's about a 0% chance I'm putting 2 thumbs in the air if a partner asks me for help.
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Old Thu Jan 23, 2014, 04:38pm
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There's about a 0% chance I'm putting 2 thumbs in the air if a partner asks me for help.
And what if you were watching for an illegal screen your primary coverage area and didn't see the ball go out of bounds? Are you still not putting up two thumbs?
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Old Tue Jan 21, 2014, 03:52pm
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For some reason, saying "Help" is frowned on around here. Instead, we stop clock and say "Partner". Not sure I see much difference, but oh well.
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Old Tue Jan 21, 2014, 04:29pm
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For some reason, saying "Help" is frowned on around here. Instead, we stop clock and say "Partner". Not sure I see much difference, but oh well.
Haven't really heard that "Help" is frowned upon but I do say "Partner". I guess it may sound a little better...leaving less room for a coach to turn it against you.
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Old Tue Jan 21, 2014, 04:33pm
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Haven't really heard that "Help" is frowned upon but I do say "Partner". I guess it may sound a little better...leaving less room for a coach to turn it against you.
That's pretty much what we have been told...Coach can't say something stupid like "Why do you need help?". But they really can say that...kind of 6 of one, half a dozen of another.
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