What you guys Think of this? (Video)

[APG]

Just my opinion:

If there's an intentional foul here in this situation, especially when it's evident that the losing team is fouling on purpose, then the call has to be obvious. It has to be obvious enough that you don't have 19 (or whatever the count) officials saying it's a common foul to only 2-3 in favor for it.

Originally Posted by egj13

similiar to the 0.2 seconds left play, these men should be flogged in public and never allowed to work a HS game again

While I didn't necessarily agree with that sentiment in the previous thread, there's a huge difference between a questionable judgement and a flat out misapplication of the rules.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

That is, IMHO, a crap comment, Camron. He did not "give" them 4 free throws. To make a comment like that puts you in the same category as the fan who initially posted the video.

Argue whether or not it was an IF all day. But #3 in blue earned his T. To turn around and say that the official gave the other team free throws is just wrong.

For the record, I would not have had an IF on that play either. But if a partner did, so be it.

Not to mention that the player who committed the intentional then shoved a player about the same time #3 was earning his T.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Not to mention that the player who committed the intentional then shoved a player about the same time #3 was earning his T.

Reminds me of a game (my first this year) BV level. In the final 90 seconds I had 2 T's on the visiting teams players. They were up by 2 points and each T the home team was in the bonus, so they got the opportunity for 3 FT's each time AND the ball.

The home team ended up winning by 3.

First T, kid that fouled out said "Open your eyes"

Second T, after I called a foul 80 feet away from the basket the kid that fouled yelled "No" and slammed the ball (granted he caught the ball so it didn't go over his head, but that didn't matter).

Right after that the same team's AC was close to a T, I just looked at the HC and told him "He's about to cost you 2 FT's and the ball".

Did I give that game away? Nope, each kid earned their T, and I would have the same outcome 100% of the time.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by deecee

Reminds me of a game (my first this year) BV level. In the final 90 seconds I had 2 T's on the visiting teams players. They were up by 2 points and each T the home team was in the bonus, so they got the opportunity for 3 FT's each time AND the ball.

The home team ended up winning by 3.

First T, kid that fouled out said "Open your eyes"

Second T, after I called a foul 80 feet away from the basket the kid that fouled yelled "No" and slammed the ball (granted he caught the ball so it didn't go over his head, but that didn't matter).

Right after that the same team's AC was close to a T, I just looked at the HC and told him "He's about to cost you 2 FT's and the ball".

Did I give that game away? Nope, each kid earned their T, and I would have the same outcome 100% of the time.

Why are you giving three FTs for a T?

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Adam

Why are you giving three FTs for a T?

Sorry should have said 4. 2 potential for the 1 and 1 and 2 for the T.

[Rich1]

Count me in with those who have an intentional foul to go along with the T. By rule, if the player is not making a play on the ball it is an intentional foul. I see the defender grab the dribbler from behind with both hands almost in the fashion of a bear hug. I see no problem with how it was called and probably would have called it the same if I were there. Also note, that the opposing coach stood up immediately calling for the flagrant so others saw it that way when it happened as well (I know several of you will want to blast that statement with some comment about coaches dictating calls but I am ony including it to demonstrate that it was seen that way by him). And, any T that resulted is to be blamed on the player. It does not matter why he disagrees with the call or how bad a call may be a player should never comment or demonstrate in an unsporting manner.

Finally, for any of us to question the honesty and credibility of other officials is unprofessional and counter productive. I don't know one guy nor have I heard of one game from my area where an official cheated. As they like to say in grade school, when you point a finger at someone there are four pointing back at you.

I hope in the future some of you more regular posters can stop trying so hard to find fault with others and stick to discusing / debating rules and situations. I enjoy coming to the forum to learn from each of you but find it hard to wade through the constant negativity of some posters.

[rekent]

Originally Posted by deecee

They were up by 2 points and each T the home team was in the bonus, so they got the opportunity for 3 FT's each time AND the ball.

Maybe I am just too tired at the moment, but . Could you please tell me how a T is in any way getting them 3 free throws instead of 2 and ball at division line?

[asdf]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Giving someone 4 FTs and possession sure makes it close, however.

Not getting anything out of a 2 on 1 break (missed two from three feet) then getting stripped started this whole mess.

Could have been only down 4 with 24 seconds remaining had someone not popped off... Then a stupid intentional foul on the throw-in sealed it.

Poor decision by the T, but he didn't hand them the game.