Endgame controversy in No VA

[justacoach]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Does that mean that games in that area have an alternate?

No, the covering association provided the 3 floor officials and a trained clock operator.

[Raymond]

The VHSL has made up its own rules on the fly before, now all of a sudden they have to follow the handbook.

But I digress.

Something is missing here. If the R did confirm with the coach that no try or tap can score, why did he allow the basket?

Additionally, why is the coach telling his players to guard "only the players the could receive a lob pass"? If I were a coach (and trusted my referees) I wouldn't even have my players on that half of the court. No try or tap can score, so why bother?

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by AremRed

No try or tap can score, so why bother?

A tap could score...

or are you saying because the official said a tap couldn't score... so why bother?

Originally Posted by RookieDude

A tap could score...

or are you saying because the official said a tap couldn't score... so why bother?

Yeah a tap can score. If the offensive team knew that they probably would have attempted one, which made the defensive coach say only guard the lob and (probably) around the basket.

My bigger point is the disconnect between what the coach 'confirmed' and what the crew allowed.

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by AremRed

My bigger point is the disconnect between what the coach 'confirmed' and what the crew allowed.

I believe some of this game could have been re-played, around these parts.

If "it" was because of a missaplication of a RULE...our State powers may have re-played this game from the point the rule was ignored.

If "it" was because of an officials JUDGEMENT...our State powers would not have re-played this game from any point.

This, of course, if the proper protests were documented.

[johnny d]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

I believe some of this game could have been re-played, around these parts.

If "it" was because of a missaplication of a RULE...our State powers may have re-played this game from the point the rule was ignored.

I sure hope not. Unfortunately with the number of games being played, I a sure there are rules being kicked somewhere every night.

1. who has the time/is going to review all these games

2. are they going to replay every game in which a rule was kicked

3. are they going to replay them even if the rule was kicked in the first minute of the game

4. when and how would they find time to replay all those games

the idea of replaying the end of this game or any other game would lead to a complete cluster ****

[Jesse James]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Something is missing here. If the R did confirm with the coach that no try or tap can score, why did he allow the basket?

Additionally, why is the coach telling his players to guard "only the players the could receive a lob pass"? If I were a coach (and trusted my referees) I wouldn't even have my players on that half of the court. No try or tap can score, so why bother?

Read again

The quote from the article:

..."Lake Braddock coach Brian Metress had just called timeout to confirm with the referee that the only shot Annandale could get off in time WAS a tip. According to Metress, the referee confirmed it"...

[grunewar]

My Association. Long discussion at the Meeting the other night. In this day and age of videos and social media, there is no hiding. We blew it. We are moving on as best we can and going forward.

[johnny d]

Originally Posted by grunewar

My Association. Long discussion at the Meeting the other night. In this day and age of videos and social media, there is no hiding. We blew it. We are moving on as best we can and going forward.

Step one, fire the officials working the game.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by johnny d

Step one, fire the officials working the game.

Yep, their entire careers should end because of a single mistake.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by johnny d

Step one, fire the officials working the game.

I'm sure they're glad they don't work for you on their day jobs......

[HokiePaul]

Originally Posted by grunewar

My Association. Long discussion at the Meeting the other night. In this day and age of videos and social media, there is no hiding. We blew it. We are moving on as best we can and going forward.

Yep. Used as a teaching moment for the entire association. Lots of things before and immediately after that could have been done. Unfortunately, the crew had left the visual confines when they realized the mistake and it was too late.

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by grunewar

My Association. Long discussion at the Meeting the other night. In this day and age of videos and social media, there is no hiding. We blew it. We are moving on as best we can and going forward.

Care to expand on the discussion that took place at the meeting, what happened with the officials who kicked it, etc

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

Care to expand on the discussion that took place at the meeting, what happened with the officials who kicked it, etc

We reviewed the play and discussed the issue at hand and used it as a teaching moment. No discussion or explanation was had about any ramifications for the officials who refereed the game.