Interesting BJV Game Last Night

[j51969]

All Varsity games are 3-man here as well (my post may have been mis-leading, see the title), its the BJV games that I am lobbying to get 3 man. One, this a great way for younger officials to get some good 3 man experience. two, the level of play in this league can clearly support that. The conference is assigned by a guy in the association. If you want in, you have to go to his camp. I am new to the area, and clearly have not. Also, he only assigns the Varsity games. All the sub-varsity is assigned by the AD's. I will kept beating the drum, maybe someone will listen.

[stick]

Originally Posted by j51969

All Varsity games are 3-man here as well (my post may have been mis-leading, see the title), its the BJV games that I am lobbying to get 3 man. One, this a great way for younger officials to get some good 3 man experience. two, the level of play in this league can clearly support that. The conference is assigned by a guy in the association. If you want in, you have to go to his camp. I am new to the area, and clearly have not. Also, he only assigns the Varsity games. All the sub-varsity is assigned by the AD's. I will kept beating the drum, maybe someone will listen.

It sounds like you were hustling which is a good thing. However i would never tell a coach his team deserves to have 3 officials. What your essentially telling him is you don't feel you and your partner can call the game properly. Never give that impression!! AFAIK, JV basketball has always been, is currently and for the forseeable future is 2 man. Officials, assignors, coaches and players all know this. Keep hustling, coaches may not directly indicate it but they do appreciate officials who hustle and work hard. The over the back call he wants is just that, he want a call for his team. They do that in 3 man!!

[deecee]

Even though I prefer a third official there is very little reason why 2 officials cannot call a majority of games. Yes, some calls get missed, but what's the guarantee that the third official will catch these. I would also never tell a coach that we are working hard but would love a third official to help us out. The coaches many times act like the third official anyway.

[CountTheBasket]

Originally Posted by deecee

Even though I prefer a third official there is very little reason why 2 officials cannot call a majority of games. Yes, some calls get missed, but what's the guarantee that the third official will catch these. I would also never tell a coach that we are working hard but would love a third official to help us out. The coaches many times act like the third official anyway.

I've made comments along these lines when umpiring baseball games as a single umpire, particularly when coaches argue a tag on the backside of the bag or something that is just literally impossible to be 100% on when you're by yourself. However, something doesn't feel right about saying it during basketball. Maybe because as you stated here, many games are officiated with 2 referees, it wasn't long ago 2 was the norm on varsity games, it's happened just this year in a division one game due to injury, and even the NBA didn't use 3 until 1988 (yes I had to google the year but I knew it was relativley recent). As much as we know things are missed with one less referee it isn't something I like to openly admit.

[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by CountTheBasket

I've made comments along these lines when umpiring baseball games as a single umpire, particularly when coaches argue a tag on the backside of the bag or something that is just literally impossible to be 100% on when you're by yourself. However, something doesn't feel right about saying it during basketball. Maybe because as you stated here, many games are officiated with 2 referees, it wasn't long ago 2 was the norm on varsity games, it's happened just this year in a division one game due to injury, and even the NBA didn't use 3 until 1988 (yes I had to google the year but I knew it was relativley recent). As much as we know things are missed with one less referee it isn't something I like to openly admit.

Frankly, I can't imagine why not. There are areas of the court that cannot be adequately covered with only 2 officials. There's no reason to pretend otherwise. There's a reason why 3 is the norm for V and above: the 2 man system doesn't work well enough for these games.

[SNIPERBBB]

We have went to 3-man JV for all but maybe one or two schools in our district. Has been that way for 6 years for the better paying schools, cheaper schools took a few years to get there.