Missouri State/Wichita State video requests

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

Section 23 Art. 1 of the 2013-2014 NFHS Rule Book says "Every player is entitled to a spot on the playing court provided such player gets there first without illegally contacting the opponent". This part comes before the guidelines you quote.

IMO, the defender in Play #1 does not get to the spot first and before contact is made. He has to have both feet on the playing court at the spot of the foul, and be the first at the spot, to satisfy both parts of legally guarding an opponent plus obtaining legal guarding position.

Not if he has already established LGP.

[BryanV21]

Originally Posted by zm1283

Not if he has already established LGP.

LGP doesn't matter. I'll write it again...

"Every player is entitled to a spot on the playing court provided such player gets their first without illegally contacting the opponent." - Page 33, Section 23 ART. 1 of the 2013-2014 NFHS Basketball Rules book

Whether or not you think the defender had LGP is moot, as the dribbler has the right to that spot too. The defender did NOT get their first.

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

LGP doesn't matter. I'll write it again...

"Every player is entitled to a spot on the playing court provided such player gets their first without illegally contacting the opponent." - Page 33, Section 23 ART. 1 of the 2013-2014 NFHS Basketball Rules book

Whether or not you think the defender had LGP is moot, as the dribbler has the right to that spot too. The defender did NOT get their first.

LGP does matter. He was in a LGP and did get to the spot prior to the offense. I think the first play could have been a play on, but in my opinion if you have a call, I would have a PC. One thing I don't see is the offensive player getting past the shoulders of the defense.

[BryanV21]

I've been looking hard at the play and reading the rule book over and over, as I've been involved in debate concerning plays like this before, and I will concede to this...

If both players got to the spot at the same time, then a PC call should be made. The defender had more of a right to that spot as he moved laterally, and not towards the dribbler, after having gained LGP beforehand.

My problem with that is that I don't like the "same time" thing. One player beat the other to the spot, so make a choice. It's like when I was an umpire, and you'd have a "bang-bang" play at a base, and you'd hear somebody say "tie goes to the runner." Well, there is no such thing as a tie. Somebody touched the base first, so make a decision.

[BryanV21]

Originally Posted by OKREF

He was in a LGP and did get to the spot prior to the offense.

That's what I'm talking about. I'm not going to argue against somebody else's judgment.