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Old Sun Jan 12, 2014, 01:55pm
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An award winning former teacher is probably familiar with the words inane and redundant.

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Old Sun Jan 12, 2014, 02:07pm
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An award winning former teacher is probably familiar with the words inane and redundant.
The original post seemed to question whether, or not, the "defensive" coach was involved with the continuous motion rule. Don't you think that a few others may have questioned the same thing? I was leaning that way, but I wasn't 100% sure until I read BktBallRef's post, and then looked up the actual wording of the rule. He was 100% correct. Coaches aren't players. Why not simply state that for nonofficials? Continuous motion only applies to the players on the court.
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Old Sun Jan 12, 2014, 02:16pm
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An award winning former teacher is probably familiar with the words inane and redundant.
Science teacher, now an analytical chemist, not an English teacher. Which is why I'm so exacting, with precise, and accurate, descriptions of situations, events, rules, and interpretations. Maybe to a fault in officiating, but I get paid to be accurate, precise, and, yes, redundant, in my day job. Unfortunately, there is some carryover.
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Old Sun Jan 12, 2014, 02:43pm
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Billy, precision is overrated. You can repeat the same thing over and over again and still be wrong. Maybe your equipment isn't calibrated correctly. Your measurements can still be precise and at the same time be nowhere near accurate.
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Old Sun Jan 12, 2014, 02:48pm
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I didn't know continuation had anything to do with anyone other than the person who was the one taking the shot. Who cares if its the coach, mascot, cheerleader, fans, or batman.
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Old Sun Jan 12, 2014, 03:02pm
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I didn't know continuation had anything to do with anyone other than the person who was the one taking the shot ...
Well, for starters, it does. If the shooter's teammate fouls (team control foul), continuation doesn't apply (ball not released, no basket if it goes in, even while in the act), but if an opponent of the shooter fouls, then continuation does apply (ball not released, but while in the act, count the basket if it goes in). In most cases (not a player control foul), count the basket if the ball is released, and goes in, no matter who fouls.

Damn, I love these teachable moments. Who wants to clap the erasers? How about playing some kickball at recess today?

Note: If anyone would like expound upon this, or clarify this post, please feel free to do so. Especially if I'm wrong, but even if I'm right. Go ahead and knock yourself out.
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Old Sun Jan 12, 2014, 05:41pm
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Thanks Billy,
I am an official and hadn't made the connection about continuation after a foul by a non player. Thanks a lot.
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Old Sun Jan 12, 2014, 11:08pm
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I need to learn to be more patient in these situations. I know that.

Thanks for all the feed back.

So, I am about 30 games into the season, ( I did 10 games in 4 days this week) and only 1 "T". BTW, I the coach won that game by 1 point, the "T" cost him 4 points ( could have been 6 )

I did his game this Saturday and he won again by 1 point.
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Old Mon Jan 13, 2014, 05:16pm
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Thanks Billy, I am an official and hadn't made the connection about continuation after a foul by a non player. Thanks a lot.
Be sure to thank BktBallRef. It was his post that confirmed my initial interpretation.
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Old Sun Jan 12, 2014, 02:56pm
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Billy, precision is overrated. You can repeat the same thing over and over again and still be wrong. Maybe your equipment isn't calibrated correctly. Your measurements can still be precise and at the same time be nowhere near accurate.
Which is why I have to be both precise, and accurate, or I lose my day job.

Although not as precise, and accurate, as some may think. One of my biggest surprises moving from academia to the real world was that in the real world of environmental (production, not research) analytical chemistry, I am considered to have replicated an analysis of a sample if I come within twenty percent, plus, or minus (a total range of forty percent), of the replicate (duplicate) sample. That's like saying that eighty dollars is the same as one hundred and twenty dollars. I tried that out at my local supermarket the other day. As you would expect, that didn't go over very well there.

Think about that the next time you take a sip of tapwater. Plus, or minus, twenty percent.
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