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Old Sat Dec 28, 2013, 09:53pm
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Vid request missouri at nc state

Just under 4 minutes in 2nd half. Missouri on offense, block/charge and score the basket. Thought?
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Old Mon Dec 30, 2013, 10:16am
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Here's the play. There was only one angle shown where we could see anything worthwhile.


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Old Mon Dec 30, 2013, 10:32am
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I would have had B1 for the arm grab prior to A1's travel.

(beat you to it JAR )

As for the block/charge aspects, B1 moves into A1. It was a feat for him to even get in front of A1 at all considering B1 was going the wrong direction when A1 started his drive.

B1 in this play may be the quickest basketball player I've ever officiated.
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Old Mon Dec 30, 2013, 11:02am
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(Full disclosure: Mizzou alum here) Not really seeing the travel. Right foot is the pivot, jumps off left and releases the shot before right comes back down. I don't see the defender in LGP before the shoothing motion begins (although he made it close). Looks weird and sloppy, but I see it as the right call. C was looking right at it and didn't hesitate (but shouldn't he be a bit lower than he is?).

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Old Mon Dec 30, 2013, 11:31am
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(Full disclosure: Mizzou alum here) Not really seeing the travel. Right foot is the pivot, jumps off left and releases the shot before right comes back down. I don't see the defender in LGP before the shoothing motion begins (although he made it close). Looks weird and sloppy, but I see it as the right call. C was looking right at it and didn't hesitate (but shouldn't he be a bit lower than he is?).
I have A1 gathering with his left foot on the ground at the free throw line extended.
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Old Mon Dec 30, 2013, 11:45am
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I have A1 gathering with his left foot on the ground at the free throw line extended.
Looking at it again, I can see that. Hard to tell with that angle. I was trying to pause it when the dribble ended, but the transition between steps happens so fast its tough.
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I have a block on this one. I don't think the defender had LGP.
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Old Mon Dec 30, 2013, 02:56pm
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On the play I have a block.

Mechanics-wise, is the C fading away from the play when making the call a bad thing? Wouldn't it be better to close down on the play?
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Old Mon Dec 30, 2013, 03:05pm
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On the play I have a block.

Mechanics-wise, is the C fading away from the play when making the call a bad thing? Wouldn't it be better to close down on the play?
He was stationary when he blew his whistle, then stepped away from the play when he started his signal.
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Old Mon Dec 30, 2013, 03:31pm
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I have a block on this one. I don't think the defender had LGP.
I'm not disagreeing but would like to her your explanation. Thank you in advance.
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Old Mon Dec 30, 2013, 04:35pm
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I'm not disagreeing but would like to her your explanation. Thank you in advance.
What I saw was B1 get 2 down after A1 started going a different direction. B1 tried to hedge high and A1 instead went down the lane line.
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Old Mon Dec 30, 2013, 05:41pm
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Block...count the basket.
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I'm not disagreeing but would like to her your explanation. Thank you in advance.
Had LGP but lost it when A1 drove down the lane instead of directly toward the basket.
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Old Mon Dec 30, 2013, 09:36pm
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He was stationary when he blew his whistle, then stepped away from the play when he started his signal.
The only reason I would step away while signalling is if I had a charge. If I had a block I would move towards the collision while signalling. What's the best way?
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Old Tue Dec 31, 2013, 02:21am
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I think he thought charge to begin with but changed his mind.
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