Another blarge - Missouri State at Creighton

[zm1283]

Blarge video - YouTube

Someone can embed it if they want.

Watch the Lead and Center. I think the Lead actually got it right. And the video doesn't show it, but no one notices the Lead's PC signal and they went with the block.

They also had an odd play happen later in the first half. Creighton's center was fouled right under the basket going up for a shot, but as he lifted his elbows up he caught a Missouri State player on the chin. They reviewed it for quite a while and got him for a Flagrant 1. They shot the two foul shots for the common foul and went to the other end for the F1 shots followed by a throw-in for Missouri State. Wish I would have gotten a video for that one too. It is on Fox Sports Midwest so I'm not sure if the video wizards can do that. It was between 1:10 and 2:00 in the first half I think.

[jeschmit]

Why does the lead have a whistle on this? I feel that this is C's to live and die with... The lead should have probably been pinching the paint here as well, if not getting to the other side as well. I have a charge, fwiw.

[JugglingReferee]

From that video, I have PC.

[OKREF]

Two things. Isn't that the C's call since it originated in his primary? Second. That is a PC all the way.

[SAJ]

Is the C pointing to the RA after the call? It appears so, but the defender wasn't even close to it.

[Raymond]

C's primary, incorrect call.

[johnny d]

first, i have player control foul.

second, in ncaam, lead has primary on all drives to the basket when contact occurs inside free throw line and lane lines. especially when contact is with a secondary defender, as was the case in this play. at this level, this was leads call all the way, c should have had his fist up.

[johnny d]

also, it is clear in the video that l was watching the secondary defender whereas c was not, which is why l got the call right and c didnt.

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by johnny d

first, i have player control foul.

second, in ncaam, lead has primary on all drives to the basket when contact occurs inside free throw line and lane lines. especially when contact is with a secondary defender, as was the case in this play. at this level, this was leads call all the way, c should have had his fist up.

This may be true, however the contact looks like it is outside the lane. One foot barely in the lane. Still don't understand what the C was seeing.

[Blindolbat]

Originally Posted by OKREF

This may be true, however the contact looks like it is outside the lane. One foot barely in the lane. Still don't understand what the C was seeing.

One foot in the lane counts for a 3 second violation. Why not this?
Center blew this one in several ways.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by OKREF

This may be true, however the contact looks like it is outside the lane. One foot barely in the lane. Still don't understand what the C was seeing.

One foot in the lane at the time of contact but he came from a position entirely in the lane.

Some say that a defender arriving at a play from the L's primary is the L's responsibility while a defender coming in with the drive would be the C's.

Additionally, you could have drawn a straight line from the C, through the offense and to the defender...not the best of angles (but not much better from the L either).

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by SAJ

Is the C pointing to the RA after the call? It appears so, but the defender wasn't even close to it.

No...he's pointing at the player who fouled.

[maven]

How'd they handle the blarge?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by johnny d

first, i have player control foul.

second, in ncaam, lead has primary on all drives to the basket when contact occurs inside free throw line and lane lines. especially when contact is with a secondary defender, as was the case in this play. at this level, this was leads call all the way, c should have had his fist up.

I think the collision was high enough and far enough over (B1's right foot was outside the lane) that the C should have still been the primary. The Lead had another defender in his area. Also the C should have had a clear look at the defender sliding over because the primary defender abandoned the play.

I don't subscribe to all secondary defenders in the paint belonging to the Lead.

The C should have had a good enough look not to need help on the play. And I said earlier, it should have been a PC.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

not the best of angles (but not much better from the L either).

L could have pinched the paint to get a better angle.