Whistle after timeout even if returning with freet hrow?

[jeremy341a]

I know the administering official is supposed to whistle to resume play after a timeout. Do we still do that if we are returning with a free throw? I did the other night but gave a much quieter and quicker tweet.

[johnny d]

I have never done this, nor have I ever worked with anyone who did this.

[BryanV21]

I don't know if the book says so or not, but I do.

The reason being, after a lengthy dead-ball, there's a chance that somebody involved in the game (players, coaches, fellow officials, scorekeepers, or timer) isn't paying attention. Sounding the whistle alerts everybody that play is about to continue.

[johnny d]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

I don't know if the book says so or not, but I do.

The reason being, after a lengthy dead-ball, there's a chance that somebody involved in the game (players, coaches, fellow officials, scorekeepers, or timer) isn't paying attention. Sounding the whistle alerts everybody that play is about to continue.

Do you mean the players that just walked back onto the court after getting instructions from their coach? Not sure why they wouldn't be paying attention.

I cant see how the coaches that just got done giving their team instructions could fall asleep in the lengthy amount of time it takes to get the players lined up to shoot a free throw.

The timer isn't paying attention seconds after sounding the horn? I see the scorer taking a nap at every timeout, so I guess there is a chance he might not be paying attention.

I have worked with a few partners with short attention spans, but I am pretty sure even those guys were coherent coming out of a time out and getting players lined up for free throws.

Blow your whistle or not in this situation, that is up to you, but come up with a better reason. Nobody is buying this one.

[BryanV21]

Originally Posted by johnny d

Do you mean the players that just walked back onto the court after getting instructions from their coach? Not sure why they wouldn't be paying attention.

I cant see how the coaches that just got done giving their team instructions could fall asleep in the lengthy amount of time it takes to get the players lined up to shoot a free throw.

The timer isn't paying attention seconds after sounding the horn? I see the scorer taking a nap at every timeout, so I guess there is a chance he might not be paying attention.

I have worked with a few partners with short attention spans, but I am pretty sure even those guys were coherent coming out of a time out and getting players lined up for free throws.

Blow your whistle or not in this situation, that is up to you, but come up with a better reason. Nobody is buying this one.

All of those people have other things going on. Players may be talking about who they are defending, coaches may be talking about the possible in-bounds play after a made basket, scorekeepers may be going over substitutes during the TO, my partners may be counting the number of players out on the court after the TO.

Never assume everybody is on the same page. It's far better to be overcautious than undercautious.

[johnny d]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

All of those people have other things going on. Players may be talking about who they are defending, coaches may be talking about the possible in-bounds play after a made basket, scorekeepers may be going over substitutes during the TO, my partners may be counting the number of players out on the court after the TO.

Never assume everybody is on the same page. It's far better to be overcautious than undercautious.

Ok, let's assume some of this is true.

1. To paraphrase a recent Secretary of State, what difference exactly does it make whether or not the coaches are paying attention?

2. Your partners are still counting players as you are administering the free throw? I sure hope you guys did this before putting the ball in play.

3. On most free throws, 7 of the 10 players on the court are going to be involved in the free throw. You don't think they are going to start paying attention when you step in and tell them how many free throws before bouncing the ball to the shooter if you don't blow your whistle? As for the other 3 players, I am pretty sure they will figure out pretty quickly that the game has started once the free throw is taken, regardless as to whether they are discussing their defensive matchups, or the coed they are going to hook up with after the game.

[PG_Ref]

NFHS Officials manual

2.4.4.D.4 and 3.4.4.D.4
After the second horn to end the time-out or intermission, the administering official shall sound his/her whistle to indicate play is ready to resume.

However, not many sound their whistle if we're shooting free throws after time-outs.

[Adam]

I try to do it, for the same reason I blow the whistle when a TO is followed by a throw in. The book tells me to (I don't recall an exception for FTs).

Frankly, I see no reason to do it in either case.

[Camron Rust]

After a timeout and the teams are ready to play (in position for the FT) no.

If they are late getting out of the timeout, yes.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by johnny d

I have never done this, nor have I ever worked with anyone who did this.

you have never worked with me. I do it regularly.

[j51969]

IMO this has become less of an occurance in the recent years, don't know why. I have officiated basketball in IL over the years from as far north as Rockford, as far south as Benton, and now in the Champaign area. Back in the mid 90's up north we always did. Since moving back to IL in 2007 I haven't heard anyone do this down south, or in central IL. It seems a more when in rome situation now. But as one of the poster pointed out earlier players are working out possible defensive match-up changes following a time-out, and this would clearly state play is about to begin.

[JRutledge]

I have only worked with one person that did this and it was always odd to me. Never understood why you would need to do this at all. Most players know we are about to start the game again after a timeout on a FT. BTW, that one person was from Central Illinois. I always had an odd look on my face when he did it. But it was not much of an issue and I never asked him why he did that in the first place.

Peace

[johnny d]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

you have never worked with me. I do it regularly.

Next time I am in VA, I am going to ask to work a game on your crew. I am looking at a Thursday night in Jan. 2018.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by johnny d

Next time I am in VA, I am going to ask to work a game on your crew. I am looking at a Thursday night in Jan. 2018.

I'll still be here...of course, you don't have to wait that long. I work for a supervisor who employs a referee out of Chicago.

Y'all can meet up and do a swing through here together.

[johnny d]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I'll still be here...of course, you don't have to wait that long. I work for a supervisor who employs a referee out of Chicago.

Y'all can meet up and do a swing through here together.

What supervisor is that, and what league? I was under the impression you were doing D3 college stuff. I cant imagine traveling to VA for a D3 paycheck. That would end up costing money. Only two ways I can see a Chicago guy making that trip is if your supervisor has D1 league too, or the official is a salesman that does business frequently in the area.

Perhaps if the supervisor will give us a Friday-Saturday double bill and the other guy from Chicago is someone I know, I could be convinced to take a road trip.