You Decide - Block, Charge or Travel (Clip)

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by Adam

Anyone here wear a watch when working basketball games?

Nope.......or a belt either!

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Adam

Anyone here wear a watch when working basketball games?

I don't, regardless of what season it is. Honestly, and I'm probably judging too harshly, that's all I need to see.

My PERCEPTION of that official is not very positive.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Adam

Anyone here wear a watch when working basketball games?

How else would we time eight minutes, ten seconds, three seconds, five seconds, thirty seconds, sixty seconds, etc.

Originally Posted by grunewar

Nope, or a belt either.

Shut up.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

You really think so?

In two person, why would the T be below the free throw line extended? That's where he would set up as C in a 3 person crew. I really think it's 3 person...which makes him even more of a doofus for reaching that far across through all those players.

Don't know but i had a partner in two person recently that, on at least 4-5 occasions while I was administering an endline throwin in the frontcourt, set up as trail straight out from me. I asked him about it because I was puzzled about why he was doing it, particularly since he didn't go back to the correct side on more than one occasion. He denied being in line with me but admitted he came pretty far over. He said he had a better look at the play from there. OK, fine....but he didn't go back to his side at least 2-3 times and had plays occur on his side with no one there. Again, I have no idea why...made little sense and I think he just forgot where he was and wasn't open to admitting he had no idea where he was.

[Camron Rust]

I can't see anything to call from the camera view...travel? maybe (probably not). Block, not likely either. PC, maybe, but not likely either. OOB, yep.

[walt]

The lead has an open look and hits the whistle upon the contact by #21 White (which appears marginal to me). I can live with a block call or, better yet, an OOB call. I just don't see the travel call (either the alleged first one or second one). I have a REAL problem with how the trail handles the entire situation.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I can't see anything to call from the camera view...travel? maybe (probably not). Block, not likely either. PC, maybe, but not likely either. OOB, yep.

Exactly my thoughts.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Adam

Exactly my thoughts.

I don't have enough to call a travel just from this video, although I'm willing to bet that if I did have the right angle that the player did (lifted the pivot foot before starting the dribble).

[VaTerp]

Ugly basketball, ugly officiating.

I have a no-call and ball oob to white. Don't see a block or charge at all here.

[refiator]

I like the travel call….Always better to call a violation in a close call than to call a foul ... IMO.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by refiator

I like the travel call….Always better to call a violation in a close call than to call a foul ... IMO.

huh?

[JugglingReferee]

The girl traveled twice. Once at the beginning and once before the contact.

The travel immediately before the contact is close, but I do believe it was there. I also think that the T is horribly out of position in Fed, IAABO, and especially FIBA considerations, for this travel call.

I also believe that there could have been a travel call when 12 black obtained possession. It's close as well. I wouldn't mind if it was called in real time.


21 white, the defender is guarding 33 black when 33 has the ball. She switches to the ball carrier, 12 black, after 33 flashes to the middle of the FTL. During this switch, she establishes LGP immediately. 21 white doesn't move forwards and does take contact in the torso. I don't have a block, but a PC may be a tough call to sell. Call the out of bounds violation - white ball on the endline. That is, if there is no travel violation called.

And the T needs to update his look, to look the part. And change his approach, beginning with actually raising his arm when he has something. Even if it's late.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by rpirtle

The T doesn't raise his hand (or fist) to stop the clock. The T may not have had a call at all...or maybe he did.

I agree, this looks bad. That's why, in these parts, we're required to raise an open hand before all violations. If I have a fist up, I want my partner to have a open hand, if he has something different. Then, we can talk about it.

Ultimately, we reached the right destination, but it was a bumpy ride.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by bainsey

I agree, this looks bad. That's why, in these parts, we're required to raise an open hand before all violations. If I have a fist up, I want my partner to have a open hand, if he has something different. Then, we can talk about it.

Ultimately, we reached the right destination, but it was a bumpy ride.

Isn't this a requirement in all parts?

If in your part, someone doesn't raise their arm, then what?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bainsey

I agree, this looks bad. That's why, in these parts, we're required to raise an open hand before all violations.

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Isn't this a requirement in all parts? If in your part, someone doesn't raise their arm, then what?

I don't officiate in a part, but rather, in a little corner. And, we are expected to put up an open hand on all violations. The penalty if we don't? Lower peer ratings. Lower ranking. Lower level games instead of higher level games. Fewer assignments. Lighter wallet.