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Old Sun Dec 15, 2013, 07:48pm
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2012-13 NFHS 4-22: Goaltending occurs when a player touches the ball during a field-goal try or tap while it is in its downward flight entirely above the basket ring level and has the possibility of entering the basket in flight.

This omission ("outside the cylinder") needs to be corrected.

Why is this an omission? Why would it not be goaltending just because it has entered the cylinder?
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Old Sun Dec 15, 2013, 07:52pm
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Why is this an omission? Why would it not be goaltending just because it has entered the cylinder?
Because it would also be basket interference. Forces us to pick our poison.
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Old Sun Dec 15, 2013, 08:03pm
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Because it would also be basket interference. Forces us to pick our poison.

So what? What are your signals for the two violations?
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Old Sun Dec 15, 2013, 08:22pm
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So what? What are your signals for the two violations?
I think for basket interference he signals the basket good (or not). For goaltending I believe Billy takes his belt off and waves it back and forth over his head.
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Old Sun Dec 15, 2013, 08:24pm
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So what? What are your signals for the two violations?
The signals are irrelevant. Touching the ball in the cylinder is basket interference. It's not goaltending.
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Old Sun Dec 15, 2013, 08:32pm
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I'd like 16 minute halfs instead of 4 quarters.
How about 18 minute halves. We do that here in MN. Of course JV(B squad and lower) are shorter but still played in halves.
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Old Mon Dec 16, 2013, 12:40pm
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How about 18 minute halves. We do that here in MN. Of course JV(B squad and lower) are shorter but still played in halves.
Will our game fees be increased by 12.5%?
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How about 8 minute halves?
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How about 8 minute halves?

As long as they are running clock halves.

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Old Sun Dec 15, 2013, 09:11pm
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Touching the ball in the cylinder is basket interference.
Unless it's on its downward flight, in which case it is (also) goaltending.

As mentioned above, so what?

If a player lifts his pivot and places it back down out of bounds, which is it, out of bounds or traveling?
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Old Sun Dec 15, 2013, 09:25pm
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I'm the same with previous, headband/jersey colors, logos, etc.

Also, I would get rid of pre-game dunking being a T. If it's a shot you might actually make in a game, you should be able to practice it.

And how about getting rid of AP arrow! Jump ball between the two who tied it up man, makes things more exciting!!
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Old Sun Dec 15, 2013, 09:35pm
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I'm the same with previous, headband/jersey colors, logos, etc.

Also, I would get rid of pre-game dunking being a T. If it's a shot you might actually make in a game, you should be able to practice it.

And how about getting rid of AP arrow! Jump ball between the two who tied it up man, makes things more exciting!!
While in general, I perfer the jump ball, that would be awful in girls game.
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Old Sun Dec 15, 2013, 09:58pm
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And how about getting rid of AP arrow! Jump ball between the two who tied it up man, makes things more exciting!!
Not in high school. College, certainly, but not high school.

My change: Change the wording of a technical foul for "grasping" the ring to "hanging from" the ring. The latter does significantly more damage than the former.
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If a player lifts his pivot and places it back down out of bounds, which is it, out of bounds or traveling?
The basket interference/goaltending multiple violation "choice" can be easily fixed. I'm not sure that this one (above) can be easily fixed, unless the NFHS comes up with a casebook play that tells us which violation to call.
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