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umpire99 Sun Dec 15, 2013 06:23pm

What rule would you change?
 
I know our job is to enforce the rules but if you had the power to change one rule what would it be?

scrounge Sun Dec 15, 2013 06:45pm

Elimination of restrictions on colors of headbands and compression sleeves

JRutledge Sun Dec 15, 2013 06:51pm

Expand the coaching box at the high school level. And get rid of all rules associated with colors of armbands and other things that have absolutely nothing to do with playing the game.

Peace

APG Sun Dec 15, 2013 07:03pm

Just about all the uniform rules with regard to color, dimensions, logos and numbers.

Freddy Sun Dec 15, 2013 07:07pm

Ch..Ch..Ch...Ch...Changes
 
Only a player on the court may request a timeout.
But alas, "time may change me, but I can't change time." :cool:

BillyMac Sun Dec 15, 2013 07:36pm

Suggested NFHS Rule Changes ...
 
NFHS 9-3-3: A player shall not leave the court for an unauthorized reason.
PENALTY: (Section 3) The ball is dead when the violation occurs and is awarded to the opponents for a throw in from the designated out-of-bounds spot nearest the violation. (See 6-7-9 Exception d)

NFHS 10-3-2: A player shall not: Purposely and/or deceitfully delay returning after legally being out of bounds.
PENALTY: (Section 3) Two free throws plus ball for division-line throw-in.

Change 10-3-2 from a technical foul to a violation. Purposely and/or deceitfully delay returning after legally being out of bounds should carry the same penalty as leaving the court for an unauthorized reason.

Suggestion: NFHS 9-3-3-B: A player shall not purposely and/or deceitfully delay returning after legally being out of bounds.
PENALTY: (Section 3) The ball is dead when the violation occurs and is awarded to the opponents for a throw-in from the designated out-of-bounds spot nearest the violation. (See 6-7-9 Exception d)

Also, over the years our local interpreters have added the statement "outside the cylinder" to the goaltending definition, but that statement is not in the NFHS rulebook. So if you have a situation where a player touches the ball during a field-goal try, while it is in its downward flight, entirely above the basket ring level, while the ball is in the cylinder, and the ball has the possibility of entering the basket in flight, then, by strict interpretation of the written definition, the official can call either a goaltending violation, or a basket interference violation.

The definition of goaltending did contain this requirement (having to be outside of the imaginary cylinder) through the 2003-04 season. For some unknown reason the rule was edited, without comment, or announcement, for the 2004-05 season and that part of the definition was dropped.

2002-03 NFHS 4-22: Goaltending occurs when a player touches the ball during a field-goal try or tap while: a) the ball is in downward flight. b) the entire ball is above the level of the basket ring. c) the ball has the possibility of entering the basket in flight. d) the ball is not touching an imaginary cylinder which has the basket ring as its lower base.

2012-13 NFHS 4-22: Goaltending occurs when a player touches the ball during a field-goal try or tap while it is in its downward flight entirely above the basket ring level and has the possibility of entering the basket in flight.

This omission ("outside the cylinder") needs to be corrected.

Scrapper1 Sun Dec 15, 2013 07:43pm

Delete 4-12-2d. It requires officials to call the game contrary to other rules.

just another ref Sun Dec 15, 2013 07:48pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 914487)
2012-13 NFHS 4-22: Goaltending occurs when a player touches the ball during a field-goal try or tap while it is in its downward flight entirely above the basket ring level and has the possibility of entering the basket in flight.

This omission ("outside the cylinder") needs to be corrected.


Why is this an omission? Why would it not be goaltending just because it has entered the cylinder?

BillyMac Sun Dec 15, 2013 07:51pm

Name That Tune ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 914483)
Ch..Ch..Ch...Ch...Changes

David Bowie, 1971.

BillyMac Sun Dec 15, 2013 07:52pm

Six Of One, Half Dozen Of Another ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 914490)
Why is this an omission? Why would it not be goaltending just because it has entered the cylinder?

Because it would also be basket interference. Forces us to pick our poison.

just another ref Sun Dec 15, 2013 08:03pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 914492)
Because it would also be basket interference. Forces us to pick our poison.


So what? What are your signals for the two violations?

Scrapper1 Sun Dec 15, 2013 08:22pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 914487)
This omission ("outside the cylinder") needs to be corrected.

I didn't even notice this until just now. It has to just be a typo.

rlarry Sun Dec 15, 2013 08:22pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 914496)
So what? What are your signals for the two violations?

I think for basket interference he signals the basket good (or not). For goaltending I believe Billy takes his belt off and waves it back and forth over his head.

Scrapper1 Sun Dec 15, 2013 08:24pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 914496)
So what? What are your signals for the two violations?

The signals are irrelevant. Touching the ball in the cylinder is basket interference. It's not goaltending.

rlarry Sun Dec 15, 2013 08:32pm

I'd like 16 minute halfs instead of 4 quarters.


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