Long Distance Call

[just another ref]

Tonight, BV, 2 man. I'm trail, A1 working one on one against pressure applied by B1 at the division line near my sideline. There was a significant amount of body contact but A1 was about to turn the corner and come free so I let it go, and then I heard the whistle. Partner, from his proper position as lead, across the lane from the play on the endline, had his fist up.

SURELY HE'S GOT SOMETHING OVER THERE, OFF-BALL

Then he put his hand behind his head.

SURELY HE MEANS TEAM CONTROL, BUT MADE THAT SIGNAL BY MISTAKE

Nope. Player control on A1. Going the other way. I was told that my annoyance was obvious to everyone.

Originally Posted by just another ref

pressure applied by B1....There was a significant amount of body contact but A1 was about to turn the corner and come free so I let it go....

Body contact by who? The way you write it seems like the only foul to be called is a block on B1.

Did you ask your partner what he saw?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Body contact by who? The way you write it seems like the only foul to be called is a block on B1.

Did you ask your partner what he saw?

Sure did. He said the dribbler hooked him with his elbow to get around.

Originally Posted by just another ref

Sure did. He said the dribbler hooked him with his elbow to get around.

Your post mentions long-distance calling and your annoyance, but was he right?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Your post mentions long-distance calling and your annoyance, but was he right?

You tell me. Is it possible to make a call 40 feet across the court which is 6 feet in front of your partner while the other 8 players between you and the matchup mind their own business?

Originally Posted by just another ref

You tell me. Is it possible to make a [correct] call 40 feet across the court which is 6 feet in front of your partner while the other 8 players between you and the matchup mind their own business?

Well he did make a call :P, I think you mean correct call. And while he is definitely not focusing on his primary and trusting you, I have yet to hear you say his call was wrong....just really, really, really far away.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by just another ref

You tell me. Is it possible to make a call 40 feet across the court which is 6 feet in front of your partner while the other 8 players between you and the matchup mind their own business?

I thought the goal was to get the right call regardless of WHERE the call is made.

[rpirtle]

Originally Posted by just another ref

...I was told that my annoyance was obvious to everyone.

I might have had difficulty just showing my annoyance. =-O

[pfan1981]

As a second year official, I am working 15 varsity contests this year. I feel and have been told that I am "ready". I did the scorebook for 40+ games for 5 years before officiating. Also, I watch this forum with all you great and wise officials . Plus I do camps and am part of a mentoring program.

All that being said, the biggest thing I pre-game about is PRIMARY. I didn't take me long, to realize older and more veteran officials watching the entire court. I now pre-game appropriately so that does not happen. Now if there is a train wreck that is missed, feel free.

If my partner for the night reached from 60' away......I wouldn't say anything at that time. However, I would politely at the first timeout.

Let me known your opinion about mentioning (not going into) court coverages with the coaches before the game. What do you think? I think some don't really know about them and may complain less during the game.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by pfan1981

Let me known your opinion about mentioning (not going into) court coverages with the coaches before the game. What do you think? I think some don't really know about them and may complain less during the game.

My opinion is court coverage is not something I would EVER discuss with coaches. They already comment on it, sorta.

When they don't get the call they want, they look at the far official: "C'mon, you gotta give him some help on that."


When they think they got away with one, then a whistle sounds from a different official: "Oh, my God! That's not your call! How can you call that from there?"

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by pfan1981

As a second year official, I am working 15 varsity contests this year....

All that being said, the biggest thing I pre-game about is PRIMARY. I didn't take me long, to realize older and more veteran officials watching the entire court. I now pre-game appropriately so that does not happen. Now if there is a train wreck that is missed, feel free.

If my partner for the night reached from 60' away......I wouldn't say anything at that time. However, I would politely at the first timeout.

Be careful with that approach. As the new guy, you're probably not going to change many of them and they can probably cause you more trouble then it would be worth.

[JRutledge]

Get the elephants, not the ants.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Get the elephants, not the ants.

Get the felonies, not the misdemeanors.

(Don't quote me, this belongs to someone else on the Forum.)