where/how to resume play....

[BryanV21]

Originally Posted by just another ref

For want of a better solution, I would let the period end.

How could you let the period end? There was no reason the clock should have started.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

How could you let the period end? There was no reason the clock should have started.

5-10-2: If the referee determines that the clock malfunctioned or was not started/stopped properly....................an official's count or other official information may be used to make a correction.

After B grabbed the ball, I counted to .3........period over.

[BryanV21]

Originally Posted by just another ref

5-10-2: If the referee determines that the clock malfunctioned or was not started/stopped properly....................an official's count or other official information may be used to make a correction.

After B grabbed the ball, I counted to .3........period over.

I don't see how that would be applied here. When the horn had sounded, the ball had yet to be touched. Therefore, the clock never should have started. I wouldn't ignore the horn sounding, and would treat it like an inadvertent whistle.

That rule is good for a situation in which the ball is inbounded in the backcourt, touched, and the official starts the 10-count. If the clock doesn't start, the official's count can be used to determine how much time should be placed on the clock.

But...again... in this situation, the clock should not have been started in the first place.

[ronny mulkey]

Originally Posted by just another ref

5-10-2: If the referee determines that the clock malfunctioned or was not started/stopped properly....................an official's count or other official information may be used to make a correction.

After B grabbed the ball, I counted to .3........period over.

Another ref,

Horn went off BEFORE B1 grabbed ball.

[just another ref]

5-10-1: The referee may correct an obvious mistake by the timer......


It says may, not must. A correction here would be counterproductive.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by just another ref

5-10-2: If the referee determines that the clock malfunctioned or was not started/stopped properly....................an official's count or other official information may be used to make a correction.

After B grabbed the ball, I counted to .3........period over.

And you know that Team A didn't stop playing when the horn sounded?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

And you know that Team A didn't stop playing when the horn sounded?

In .3, I'm content with the way it shakes out, whether they stopped or not.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by just another ref

In .3, I'm content with the way it shakes out, whether they stopped or not.

It doesn't say how much time elapsed between the time the horn sounded and the time B recovered the ball. Taht would be the question. So .3 really has nothing to do with it.

I see no reason not to reset the clock and run it again, as it's allowed (and I believe) expected of us by rule.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

I see no reason not to reset the clock and run it again, as it's allowed (and I believe) expected of us by rule.

The reason, I think, is that this would give team A a second opportunity to throw a lob pass and score after they had already failed. I think this would fall under giving one team an advantage not intended by the rule.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by just another ref

The reason, I think, is that this would give team A a second opportunity to throw a lob pass and score after they had already failed. I think this would fall under giving one team an advantage not intended by the rule.

I'm with Tony, if the time lapse was big enough, I'd grant a new throw in for A. If it was nearly simultaneous, I might consider ending the period.

[BryanV21]

Since there are only .3 seconds left, that means a team can only score by tapping the ball into the goal... they can't catch and shoot it. So I understand allowing the game/quarter to end, even though the horn sounded before anybody on the court even touched the ball.

However, going strictly by the rule book, we should treat this as an interruption and re-do the thrown-in.

One big piece of information is missing... did Team A stop playing when the horn sounded, when they had a chance? If they did, then we have to re-do the throw-in. If they didn't, then go ahead and end the game/quarter.