Partially blocked shot

[Rob1968]

2-man game: as Trail

3-point attempt from left elbow area, by A1, shot is partially blocked by B1, immediately off the shooter's hand, and then goes towards the basket, but is not touched by any other player, and goes out-of-bounds on the endline, to which Lead whistles the ball dead, and indicates B team possession.

How do you guys handle the communication with your partner, to let him/her know that the ball was last touched by B1?

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally Posted by Rob1968

2-man game: as Trail

3-point attempt from left elbow area, by A1, shot is partially blocked by B1, immediately off the shooter's hand, and then goes towards the basket, but is not touched by any other player, and goes out-of-bounds on the endline, to which Lead whistles the ball dead, and indicates B team possession.

How do you guys handle the communication with your partner, to let him/her know that the ball was last touched by B1?

I give a quick tweet of the whistle to get my partner's attention, give a tip signal to him, and signal the direction we should be going.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

I give a quick tweet of the whistle to get my partner's attention, give a tip signal to him, and signal the direction we should be going.

What if your partner disagrees with what you saw or something else was the reason they called the out of bounds call?

I would not recommend you signal anything. Just go to them and let them change the call.

Peace

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

What if your partner disagrees with what you saw or something else was the reason they called the out of bounds call?

I would not recommend you signal anything. Just go to them and let them change the call.

Peace

As described in the original post, I do what is stated above, when it is obvious no one else touched it after the tip. If there is the possibility that someone else touched it going OOB, I'll get together with my partner and let him know what I saw on the original shot/tip, but if there was another touching prior to the ball going OOB, I'l leave it up to him to decide what he saw.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

As described in the original post, I do what is stated above, when it is obvious no one else touched it after the tip. If there is the possibility that someone else touched it going OOB, I'll get together with my partner and let him know what I saw on the original shot/tip, but if there was another touching prior to the ball going OOB, I'l leave it up to him to decide what he saw.

When you give a signal, if you are wrong or if your partner saw what you saw, but you did not see last action, now if they stay with that original call you have really put that officials in a bind.

I had this happen a long time ago with a very good official and he gave a signal because he saw the initial action. He did not see the the very last action or the ball going off a players face right over the end line. I did not even signal the change and when I asked my partner after the game, "Did you see the ball off his face on that play?" He said no and I told him if he would have just come to me I would have been able to get that play right. After all, that is the goal.

Peace

[Adam]

As lead, when these plays happen, I'll often have a whistle and then look to my partner and ask if it was tipped.

[BatteryPowered]

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

I give a quick tweet of the whistle to get my partner's attention, give a tip signal to him, and signal the direction we should be going.

Just curious...what basis in rule do you have for over-ruling a call made by your partner? I read this as you do it in a manner visible to all in the gym, if I read it wrong, my apologies.

Go to them, tell them what you saw and let them decided.

[JRutledge]

You go to your partner and say, "The defender clearly tipped the ball on the shot and it went out of bounds." Then the Lead should put the whistle in their mouth and blow the whistle and point in the proper direction.

This should be pre-gamed before every game so you are on the same page. But your partner that is helping should not be asking any questions or trying to find things out. You only do this when you know for sure what you saw and let the calling official make the decision to change the call.

Peace

[The_Rookie]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

You go to your partner and say, "The defender clearly tipped the ball on the shot and it went out of bounds." Then the Lead should put the whistle in their mouth and blow the whistle and point in the proper direction.

This should be pre-gamed before every game so you are on the same page. But your partner that is helping should not be asking any questions or trying to find things out. You only do this when you know for sure what you saw and let the calling official make the decision to change the call.

Peace

Rut once again stated it perfectly..let the calling official make any changes just provide solid info to help out

[Toren]

I handle these cases basically the same. I approach my partner and give him what information I have. B1 blocked the shot. Then I let them reverse.

I try to pre game this at the high school level and above.

[Rob1968]

Thanks, for the responses. It's been common that partners who are used to working together would give the "tipped ball" signal, rather than approaching one's partner with the info. With the acceptance of that signal, specifically for a ball that's tipped by the defense, which then goes into the backcourt, it got me thinking about other, perhaps unauthorized uses of that signal.

And, last Sat. my partner didn't show until 2 min. to go in the 1st half, (pre-season game - he went to the wrong site) I had such a call, before he arrived. The signal was my best option, since I was working from T to T, and the air-ball went OOB across the key, on the endline. The players all understood what had occured, and the game proceeded.