pivot after jump stop

[potato]

if you catch the ball with one foot on the floor, doesn't it already mean you have established a pivot on that foot, thus you are jumping off the pivot foot?

Originally Posted by jump stop

Watch this video, I hope this clears up some misconceptions


Potato : The rule does not say "you can jump off o pivot foot" it says if you "catch the ball while dribbling or moving with one foot on floor , you may jump off this foot and land simultaneously on two"

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by jump stop

Potato : The rule does not say "you can jump off o pivot foot" it says if you "catch the ball while dribbling or moving with one foot on floor , you may jump off this foot and land simultaneously on two"

Originally Posted by potato

if you catch the ball with one foot on the floor, doesn't it already mean you have established a pivot on that foot, thus you are jumping off the pivot foot?

I think that his point was that the rule does not say you can jump off of your pivot foot but that you can jump off of the foot on the floor and land simultaneously. There actually can be no pivot foot on a true jump stop as 2. On one foot followed by the other, the first foot to touch is the pivot. Not Your situation

3. On one foot, the player may jump off that foot and simultaneously land on both. Neither foot can be a pivot in this case. This is the situation and there actually can not be a pivot foot The foot on the ground is just that and when you jump and land with both feet simultaneously no foot can be pivot.

[APG]

Originally Posted by potato

if you catch the ball with one foot on the floor, doesn't it already mean you have established a pivot on that foot, thus you are jumping off the pivot foot?

No...because the player's subsequent actions will determine whether the player has a pivot foot or not. If he steps with the other foot, then the foot that was initially on the floor is the pivot foot. Conversely, if he jumps off the foot on the floor and land simultaneously on both feet, then the player will not have a pivot foot.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by potato

if you catch the ball with one foot on the floor, doesn't it already mean you have established a pivot on that foot, thus you are jumping off the pivot foot?

No.


Do you own a rule book? (serious question)

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

No.


Do you own a rule book? (serious question)

He is not an official.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

He is not an official.

Fair enough. Then his questions make more sense (although I wish he'd not try to parse the words).

potato -- When a player catches the ball with one foot on the floor, that foot is NOT YET the pivot foot. It BECOMES the pivot foot when the other foot touches the floor. Or, if the player jumps off that (initial) foot and lands on both feet, then the player is not allowed a pivot foot.

[potato]

OK i guess i need to open another question just to clarify on this instead of riding off this topic.