Protective Gear Really Needed?

[Altor]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

Right or Wrong...around these parts, we usually just let different colored undershirts go for Middle School.

You should get others "around these parts" to start enforcing it at the MS level. Then you'll be less likely to have to enforce it at the upper levels.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Altor

You should get others "around these parts" to start enforcing it at the MS level. Then you'll be less likely to have to enforce it at the upper levels.

Oh I don't now. Around here, it largely depends on the league (small school vs. big school) and the assigner. High school is all one assigner, and none of the schools have any issues.

The coaches don't move up with the players, so the HS coaches already know the requirements.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by johnny d

Knee pads and elbow pads are not guards, casts, or braces and therefore are not covered by that rule.

... nor are they necessarily sleeves, however some arm sleeves, and leg sleeves, have built in pads, in which case, they are sleeves.

Anybody got a couple of aspirin? I normally don't mind monitoring Fashion Police issues, but please, let's keep it above the waist.

[BillyMac]

We've been told that, not withstanding what the NFHS, or IAABO (International) have to say about it, Connecticut (100% IAABO) officials will allow protective headgear (below) to be worn in basketball games, with no color restrictions.

[potato]

Isn't preventive measures to avoid injuries sort of a medical reason?

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

How can knee pads be "worn for medical reasons" if no injury exists? Thoughts?

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by potato

Isn't preventive measures to avoid injuries sort of a medical reason?

Hey Doc, how bout a couple of prescriptions for morphine and lortab. I might get injured and have pain sometime in the future. My answer is no. Nothing listed in any of the rules or case book mentions anything that has to do with prevention of injury. All of them are for treatment or protection of an existing injury. That's why I brought up gloves. They would be for protection and they are specifically banned in the case book as they are not necessary to play the game. IMO neither are helmets, knee pads or elbow pads (or arm sleeves or leg sleeves either).

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

Hey Doc, how bout a couple of prescriptions for morphine and lortab. I might get injured and have pain sometime in the future. My answer is no. Nothing listed in any of the rules or case book mentions anything that has to do with prevention of injury. All of them are for treatment or protection of an existing injury. That's why I brought up gloves. They would be for protection and they are specifically banned in the case book as they are not necessary to play the game. IMO neither are helmets, knee pads or elbow pads (or arm sleeves or leg sleeves either).

The difference is gloves can provide a distinct, direct advantage. Knee pads may provide an advantage (allowing a player to be a bit more reckless), but it's not nearly as direct as wearing, for example, wide receiver's gloves.

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by Adam

The difference is gloves can provide a distinct, direct advantage. Knee pads may provide an advantage (allowing a player to be a bit more reckless), but it's not nearly as direct as wearing, for example, wide receiver's gloves.

You said it.^^^

The case book states: 'The second standard provides that "any equipment which is unnatural and designed to increase the player's height or vertical reach, or to gain a competitive advantage, shall not be used."'

But I guess if they are allowed and everyone wears them there is no advantage gained.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

Hey Doc, how bout a couple of prescriptions for morphine and lortab. I might get injured and have pain sometime in the future. My answer is no.

It happens.

During my most recent kidney stone attack (my third one), I was screaming all the way to the hospital, I yelled at my brother-in-law to go through every red light, and as soon as I got into the emergency room, I started screaming for morphine. I swear, if I couldn't get painkillers, and if I had a gun, I would have shot myself.

Fast forward. Knowing that I will probably have another attack, I asked my doctor for a prescription for oxycodone, to take care of the pain while on the way to the nearest hospital emergency room. He gave me a few pills for home, and a few to put in my locker at work.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

You said it.^^^

The case book states: 'The second standard provides that "any equipment which is unnatural and designed to increase the player's height or vertical reach, or to gain a competitive advantage, shall not be used."'

But I guess if they are allowed and everyone wears them there is no advantage gained.

The intent there is equipment that has a direct advantage, such as shoes with springs or shoes that make a player several inches taller.

[potato]

Is there a limit how thick the soles of a shoe has to be?

Kobe System 8 generally gives a boost of 2.5" height which is on the high side, i've seen some Air Max shoes giving like 3" boost.

Originally Posted by Adam

The intent there is equipment that has a direct advantage, such as shoes with springs or shoes that make a player several inches taller.

Originally Posted by potato

Is there a limit how thick the soles of a shoe has to be?

Kobe System 8 generally gives a boost of 2.5" height which is on the high side, i've seen some Air Max shoes giving like 3" boost.

Ah, I think the rules are simply trying to outlaw these:

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by potato

Is there a limit how thick the soles of a shoe has to be?

Kobe System 8 generally gives a boost of 2.5" height which is on the high side, i've seen some Air Max shoes giving like 3" boost.

Nothing specific and as long as the shoes are commercially available I won't really be checking, either.

[potato]

If gloves aren't allowed, why do NBA allow finger bands that increases a person's grip? Reggie Miller wears that, so does Allen Iverson. It's pretty similar to tennis/golf players that wear them to increase the grip.

Originally Posted by potato

If gloves aren't allowed, why do NBA allow finger bands that increases a person's grip? Reggie Miller wears that, so does Allen Iverson. It's pretty similar to tennis/golf players that wear them to increase the grip.

Do you have a citation for that information?