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Old Sat Sep 28, 2013, 12:12pm
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Jeff, I'm with you on this issue, but what is expected, and therefore what is considered "professional", is going to vary by area. Where jar works, it's not unprofessional. The only people who notice are officials, and school staff. If the school staff sees it all the time, they won't know any different.
I'll agree that everyone should do their Rome thing, and I'll also agree that few people other than officials would notice if someone came to the game dressed for the court, but I know I feel sharper when I arrive at a game site looking sharp. Additionally I doubt that someone who is not an official would think a dressed-down official is unprofessional or won't do a good job. I do think that an "outsider" will have the opposite impression with an official who is sharply dressed before a game. It's human nature to have unconscious impressions based on appearance and I'm going to control what I can control and put myself in the best position I can in order to get a positive first impression. I'm sureasheck not going to tell another adult what he or she should be wearing to a game but if someone asks, I'll share my experiences...
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Old Sat Sep 28, 2013, 12:45pm
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... arrive at a game site looking sharp.
It is our local custom that varsity officials arrive at the site in time for the junior varsity jump ball, observe the first half of the junior varsity game, join in the junior varsity halftime locker room conference, and observe the third period the junior varsity game, before heading into the locker room to get changed for the varsity game.

Junior varsity officials are encouraged to stay for, at least, the first half of the varsity game, and join the varsity halftime locker room conference.

All of this observing is for both educational, and collegial rating, purposes.

We believe that it's more professional to sit in the bleachers, surrounded by fans, parents, school staff, etc., in business casual street clothes rather than in uniform. There's certainly no way that anyone could accuse any members of my local board of a "get in, get out, get paid" mentality. We've been told by many athletic directors, and a few coaches, that they see us observe each other for educational purposes, that they see us, in the bleachers, dressed professionally in business casual street clothes, and that they really like what they see.
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Old Sat Sep 28, 2013, 02:54pm
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We believe that it's more professional to sit in the bleachers, surrounded by fans, parents, school staff, etc., in business casual street clothes rather than in uniform.
Another "Roman" difference.

The schools in my area usually have chairs set up away from the bleachers/crowd for the school administrators and the officials for the other game.

Of course, many of these schools are small enough that they do not have bleachers behind the goals, so there is usually room along one or both of these walls for a short row of chairs near the corner.
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Old Sat Sep 28, 2013, 03:07pm
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To people that say you may not be afforded an area to dress...where do y'all usually hold a pregame? Where do y'all go at halftime? Where do you go after the game is finished? Or should I assume this usually isn't provided at these type of schools?
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Old Sat Sep 28, 2013, 03:46pm
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To people that say you may not be afforded an area to dress...where do y'all usually hold a pregame? Where do y'all go at halftime? Where do you go after the game is finished? Or should I assume this usually isn't provided at these type of schools?
All of our high schools have changing facilities, we show up in business casual, change into uniform, shower after the game, dress back into business casual, and head to a local adult beverage emporium (especially on a Friday night).

But when working with a female official in a high school game (no, we don't get dressed, undressed, and shower together), our pregame is usually held in a hall outside the gymnasium, halftime conference in the same place, and post game conference, also, in the same place. Then we each head back to our own locker rooms.

Public middle schools (assigned by our high school assigner). Most come dressed in uniform due to the early starting times (3:30 p.m.), and usual lack of changing facilities. I don't work public middle schools, but I'm guessing that storage of referee property, and conferences, take place in the physical education office, which, at least in these parts, usually doesn't have a usable shower. The shower, if there is one, is where the physical education teacher usually stores equipment for the classes, and most of these teachers don't appreciate it when you toss their dodge balls out of the shower to use it.

Catholic middle school games. Almost all of us come in uniform. Jackets, street shoes, etc., are usually stored in a locked classroom nearest to the gymnasium. Conferences are held there. In a few cases all of this takes place at, or behind, the table. Less formal pre, intermission, and post game conferences, not really mandatory in our Catholic school games. We get there about ten minutes before the prayer before the start the first game, shoot the breeze with each other, work our games (usually multiple games), wait around long enough to make sure that everything is copacetic, grab our bags, grab our checks, and hit the road.
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