No "No Long Switches" No More

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Rich

then awkwardly go back to the backcourt endline.

I'm not sure it was ever awkward.

Oh well, use the mechanics that are in effect in your area.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I'm not sure it was ever awkward.

Oh well, use the mechanics that are in effect in your area.

It is, IMO, if you go to the NFHS reporting box, which (IMO) nobody ever did.

[Adam]

IAABO has been doing long switches all along. They'll probably change now, though.

[BktBallRef]

It's always made sense to me for the L to report, the C to move to the new T and the L to move to the new C.

[IAUMP]

QUOTE=BktBallRef;904450]It's always made sense to me for the L to report, the C to move to the new T and the L to move to the new C.[/QUOTE]

I'm sorry but I am confused. Do you mean, the T reports, the C moves to the new T and the old T moves to the new C?

I ask because I am a newer basketball official and want to understand, this if I run into it in my area.

[Freddy]

I'm still studying the issue, but it appears that the customary dictum prevails: "Calling official remains tableside...tableside official replaces calling official."

Therefore, there's really nothing special to learn anew, unless the new L is the tableside official and he already transitioned well into the new frontcourt. That might be a little cumbersome.

Right?

[Freddy]

BTW, anybody know of a link to anything that substantiates this apparent NFHS mechanics change? I can't find anything anywhere on their site. Help me out here, if you know. Thanx...

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by IAUMP

QUOTE=BktBallRef;904450]It's always made sense to me for the L to report, the C to move to the new T and the L to move to the new C.

I'm sorry but I am confused. Do you mean, the T reports, the C moves to the new T and the old T moves to the new C?

I ask because I am a newer basketball official and want to understand, this if I run into it in my area.

IT depends on whether it's an "offensive" foul (L and C will switch) or a "defensive foul just after a change of posession" (T and C will switch).

Either way, it's the same two people involved, just different labels depending on which way play is going at the time of the foul.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by IAUMP

I'm sorry but I am confused. Do you mean, the T reports, the C moves to the new T and the old T moves to the new C?

I ask because I am a newer basketball official and want to understand, this if I run into it in my area.

No, I meant what I said.

Foul called by the L and we're now going to other way. The L reports, the C moves to the new T and administers the throw-in while the L moves to the new C. The old T moves to the new L at the other end of the floor.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

The L reports, the C moves to the new T and administers the throw-in while the L moves to the new C. The old T moves to the new L at the other end of the floor.

The kicker seems to be, however, if C is opposite table. Reporting official apparently isn't going to replace C across the floor.
The "MechaniGram" (with the all-important "R" in a circle so that I'm prohibited from copying it without incurring the wrath of Matt Moore, who is bigger than I am) A on p.30 of most recent issue of Referee magazine shows reporting official then replacing tableside L, with that tableside L replacing the reporting official for the new endline throwin.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Adam

IAABO has been doing long switches all along.

Here in 100% IAABO, 95% two person, Connecticut, the entire state, tried "no long switches in the backcourt when there is no change of possession" a few years ago. It seemed simple enough, right? When an offensive player is handling the ball in the backcourt, and a defensive player fouls the offensive player, then the trail just reports the foul, doesn't switch, goes back, and is still the trail. Simple? Right?

Wrong. Some guys used this on rebounding fouls, especially called from the trail, where there wasn't team possession (due to the try). Others used this on garden variety, player control (charging) fouls, typically called from the lead, not sure why, maybe because, with the turnover, the frontcourt just became the backcourt? Or, maybe, because it was convenient (substitute lazy for convenient, if you like)?

I believe that it lasted, no more than, two years. Now we're back to long switches, all the time.