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Old Sat Sep 07, 2013, 11:23pm
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It's always made sense to me for the L to report, the C to move to the new T and the L to move to the new C.
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Old Sun Sep 08, 2013, 08:17am
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QUOTE=BktBallRef;904450]It's always made sense to me for the L to report, the C to move to the new T and the L to move to the new C.[/QUOTE]

I'm sorry but I am confused. Do you mean, the T reports, the C moves to the new T and the old T moves to the new C?

I ask because I am a newer basketball official and want to understand, this if I run into it in my area.
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I'm still studying the issue, but it appears that the customary dictum prevails: "Calling official remains tableside...tableside official replaces calling official."

Therefore, there's really nothing special to learn anew, unless the new L is the tableside official and he already transitioned well into the new frontcourt. That might be a little cumbersome.

Right?
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Old Sun Sep 08, 2013, 08:42am
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BTW, anybody know of a link to anything that substantiates this apparent NFHS mechanics change? I can't find anything anywhere on their site. Help me out here, if you know. Thanx...
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Old Sun Sep 08, 2013, 09:00am
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QUOTE=BktBallRef;904450]It's always made sense to me for the L to report, the C to move to the new T and the L to move to the new C.

I'm sorry but I am confused. Do you mean, the T reports, the C moves to the new T and the old T moves to the new C?

I ask because I am a newer basketball official and want to understand, this if I run into it in my area.
IT depends on whether it's an "offensive" foul (L and C will switch) or a "defensive foul just after a change of posession" (T and C will switch).

Either way, it's the same two people involved, just different labels depending on which way play is going at the time of the foul.
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Old Sun Sep 08, 2013, 09:21am
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It's always made sense to me for the L to report, the C to move to the new T and the L to move to the new C.
I'm sorry but I am confused. Do you mean, the T reports, the C moves to the new T and the old T moves to the new C?

I ask because I am a newer basketball official and want to understand, this if I run into it in my area.
No, I meant what I said.

Foul called by the L and we're now going to other way. The L reports, the C moves to the new T and administers the throw-in while the L moves to the new C. The old T moves to the new L at the other end of the floor.
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Old Sun Sep 08, 2013, 09:52am
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The L reports, the C moves to the new T and administers the throw-in while the L moves to the new C. The old T moves to the new L at the other end of the floor.
The kicker seems to be, however, if C is opposite table. Reporting official apparently isn't going to replace C across the floor.
The "MechaniGram" (with the all-important "R" in a circle so that I'm prohibited from copying it without incurring the wrath of Matt Moore, who is bigger than I am) A on p.30 of most recent issue of Referee magazine shows reporting official then replacing tableside L, with that tableside L replacing the reporting official for the new endline throwin.
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The mechanics change now is that the calling official will ALWAYS go tableside and an old lead calling a foul will never go back and be the new trail.

Perhaps my source is very similar as it's another one of the Referee people who was a clinician at one of my camps this summer. However, if he says the NFHS has made a mechanics change, they have.

Probably will be on paper in the preseason guide if this isn't a year where we get new manuals.
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Don't Know the WHY, but This Seems to be the WHAT

Got a look at new NFHS 2013-15 Officials Manual. Boiling it down to simplest terms, it seems the following is now the mechanic for dead ball switches:

Calling official always reports, then stays tableside.
Tableside official replaces calling official.

EXCEPTIONS: When C or T call a foul opposite table (the OOB after which will be administered opposite table), then C or T, reports the foul, stays opposite, and becomes the new L.


Not sure of the why. But that seems to be the what. According to the Officials Manual.
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