Intentional foul and sub?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

All true, but your statement, "The general public pays very little attention to women's basketball", has very little meaning on an internet forum that specifically deals with officiating basketball, which includes, to the dismay of some, but, I'm sure, not all, Forum members, basketball played by females. The general public has very little to do with what transpires here on the Forum. The general public does occasionally post on this Forum, but almost all of the posts are by basketball officials, some who officiate basketball games with female participants, including me. I don't officiate college basketball, but I do have a slight interest in the difference between NCAAM, and NCAAW, rules, interpretations, and mechanics.

OK, so what is your point? This is not about interest.

Most officials here do not work NCAA games on any level either as well. That is why I did not post the specific NCAA rule on the issue. Just wanted it to be known that rule like other NCAA rules often get sublimated to NF situations and rules. And once again, this specific situation in my experience I have heard officials allow a coach or have to stop a coach from claiming they can choose the shooter when a player is injured after a foul. Just wait, you will see people trying to use the NCAA rule for block/charge consideration after they have read the change and assume that change applies to high school players.

Another example is how many times I see POI used in technical foul in all situations by officials that do not even work NCAA games in the first place while the Men's and Women's rules are somewhat different in some situations. This has nothing to do about interest, just warning not to apply a rule from a level they are not likely working under. Not sure why that is hard to understand?

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Just warning not to apply a rule from a level they are not likely working under. Not sure why that is hard to understand?

JetMetFan made his post to show the difference in NCAAM, NCAAW, and NFHS rules regarding this situation. I still can't see any harm in that, especially on a basketball rules forum, a forum that often deals with more than one set of rules, and has some members that may have to deal with more than one set of rules while officiating. Even some high school games, that use officials that are most familiar with NFHS rules, will often use another rule set, or a modified rule set, i.e., NCAAM, and NCAAW, rules for prep school games here in Connecticut, and, I believe, some NCAA rules for high school games in New York, and Massachusetts. JetMetFan should be commended for his post. Not sure why that is hard to understand?

And, although true, I contend that the statement, "The general public pays very little attention to women's basketball", really has no place in a basketball officiating forum, unless, of course, the thread is about the popularity of a particular "brand" of basketball. What do Forum members care what the general public likes, or doesn't like, about basketball played by females. Just because something is true doesn't make it "postable", especially when JetMetFan's post is being questioned as appropriate, or necessary, to the thread. I'm not so sure that, "The general public pays very little attention to women's basketball", is appropriate, or necessary, to this thread, maybe others, but not this one. Not sure why that is hard to understand?

[JRutledge]

Well great commend whomever you like. I just found it an irrelevant point to make (my right to have an opinion). We were not debating the different NCAA gender differences. And since I was making the point originally, it had nothing to do with what I was saying and no one has yet to quote the rule (which I choose to do on purpose). And since he quoted my post, I have a right to comment on that post and what I think of it. No big deal.

I will say this, his post was more relevant to the topic then most of your post Billy.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I will say this, his post was more relevant to the topic then most of your posts Billy.

Agree. 100%. Don't you guys wish that all of my posts were more like JetMetFan's, or JRutledge's, and less like Mark Padgett's?

(That's a rhetorical question with no answer expected, in fact, please don't answer the question.)

[APG]

My take...both posts have their merits. There's nothing wrong with JMF pointing out that there is a difference between the NCAA-M rule and the NCAA-W. Someone will read that and learn something new...

I also think JRut has a point in that the overwhelming majority of conflicts that comes from rule differences between high school and college comes from the fact that the general public is quoting or trying to remember a men's college rule. Simple matter is many more people follow and watch men's college basketball than the women's game and will reference that rule...just like more people watch the NBA versus WNBA (though with their recent rule changes, they are pretty much, if not completely, aligned with NBA rules).

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by APG

My take, both posts have their merits.

Whew. Thanks for not answering my rhetorical question.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Agree. 100%. Don't you guys wish that all of my posts were more like JetMetFan's, or JRutledge's, and less like Mark Padgett's?

Don't flatter yourself.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Don't flatter yourself.

With apologies to Senator Lloyd Bentsen:

"BillyMac, I served with Mark Padgett. I knew Mark Padgett. Mark Padgett was a friend of mine. BillyMac, you're no Mark Padgett." (just another ref)

Agree.

[Multiple Sports]

[QUOTE=BillyMac;898969]With apologies to Senator Lloyd Bentsen:

"BillyMac, I served with Mark Padgett. I knew Mark Padgett. Mark Padgett was a friend of mine. BillyMac, you're no Mark Padgett." (just another ref)

Agree.[/

Between the belt and your middle school schedule, I doubt anyone really wants
On this site really wants to be you...

[Multiple Sports]

Originally Posted by just another ref

don't flatter yourself.

+1,000,000