Pac-12 Officiating

[JRutledge]

Well some people feel that the Pac 10/12 has had some of the worst staffs of all of the major conferences. Now that might be true or not, but guys out East are not going out west unless you give them more money to work those games. Or give them a lot of double dip opportunities working the Pac 12 and then a minor conference on an "off night."

Peace

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Well some people feel that the Pac 10/12 has had some of the worst staffs of all of the major conferences. Now that might be true or not, but guys out East are not going out west unless you give them more money to work those games. Or give them a lot of double dip opportunities working the Pac 12 and then a minor conference on an "off night."

Peace

So let them stay out east. The PAC 12 doesn't need them.

[johnny d]

Apparently, the pac 12 coaches would disagree with you rocky.

[ODJ]

Bring back Richie Ballesteros and Booker Turner.

Not Mark Reisling.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by ODJ

Bring back Richie Ballesteros and Booker Turner.

Not Mark Reisling.

Booker "UCLA" Turner.
Look up the Bruins' record in games he officiated.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by johnny d

Apparently, the pac 12 coaches would disagree with you rocky.

They may, but every conference's coaches think some other conference has better referees.

[JetMetFan]

So...Pac 12 coaches don't think officials on the East Coast have families, too?

Seven of the 32 D-I conferences have schools in the Western and Mountain time zones (along with two independents). If I live in the Eastern or Central time zones, why the heck would I want to travel that far when I have tons of games thousands of miles closer to me? The Deadspin article posted during the tournament quoted Ed Corbett as saying the travel is the worst part for him and he's generally just going up and down the eastern seaboard. The money the Pac 12 schools would have to fork over for an Eastern guy to go out there would be prohibitive.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

So...Pac 12 coaches don't think officials on the East Coast have families, too?

Seven of the 32 D-I conferences have schools in the Western and Mountain time zones (along with two independents). If I live in the Eastern or Central time zones, why the heck would I want to travel that far when I have tons of games thousands of miles closer to me? The Deadspin article posted during the tournament quoted Ed Corbett as saying the travel is the worst part for him and he's generally just going up and down the eastern seaboard. The money the Pac 12 schools would have to fork over for an Eastern guy to go out there would be prohibitive.

They probably want some of Curtis Shaw's big dawgs and maybe some of the Big 10 officials who live west of the Mississippi. Can't see any Eastern Seaboard officials taking up with the PAC 12. Though Tom Eades worked in the PAC 12 this past season.

I would think with the changes at the SEC that some of the ones that left might return. I hope Eades gets over his health problems and is back next year. No need for him to go across the country to call a game when there many in his zip code that he can call.

[Brad]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

guys out East are not going out west unless you give them more money to work those games.

The Pac-12 is one of the highest paid conferences around — I don't think it is a money issue as much as it is an alliance issue ... that is, what conference(s) do you take 1st, 2nd, 3rd...

Plus, it's a travel issue — if you primarily work the Big East and ACC, it makes sense to fill in games with the Atlantic 10, America East, and CAA (esp. since it is aligned with the ACC for basketball officiating). If you take a game with the Pac-12, you can't get back to the east coast to work a game the next day. If the coaches are wanting the "heavy hitters" then that's who we are talking about — guys that are working pretty much every day.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Brad

The Pac-12 is one of the highest paid conferences around — I don't think it is a money issue as much as it is an alliance issue ... that is, what conference(s) do you take 1st, 2nd, 3rd...

Plus, it's a travel issue — if you primarily work the Big East and ACC, it makes sense to fill in games with the Atlantic 10, America East, and CAA (esp. since it is aligned with the ACC for basketball officiating). If you take a game with the Pac-12, you can't get back to the east coast to work a game the next day. If the coaches are wanting the "heavy hitters" then that's who we are talking about — guys that are working pretty much every day.

When I was talking about money I was not talking about pay per game. I mean pay per time and energy. Going out west for officials in the Midwest would likely not make them able to work other games as easily.

Peace