T or no T

[Adam]

Nevada, when are you calling the T? When she puts the ball down or when she pushes it to you with her foot?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Adam

Nevada, when are you calling the T? When she puts the ball down or when she pushes it to you with her foot?

Since both actions are unacceptable and against the rules, it really doesn't matter, but I feel that if there hasn't been a whistle before she kicks the ball, then one is certainly needed at that time. Everyone in the gym sees that and it slights the officiating crew and is an affront to the game overall.

Personally, it would come down to which position I had on the court. If I am next to this player, then my whistle sounds when she puts the ball down and walks away. If my partner is over there and chooses to instruct her to retrieve the ball, then I'm staying out of it until she elects to kick it. At that point I'm charging a T from anywhere on the court.

[rockyroad]

In this situation she should have been T'd as soon as she placed the ball on the floor. It is obvious that the new L is asking her for the ball as she does that, so go ahead and ring her up.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

In this situation she should have been T'd as soon as she placed the ball on the floor. It is obvious that the new L is asking her for the ball as she does that, so go ahead and ring her up.

Personally, I think the set-down is much worse than using her foot to push the ball to the official after he tells her to get it. I didn't see it as a kick, to be honest.

If I passed on the first T, I don't see calling her for the soccer move unless there's some body language or facial expression I missed the first time I watched it.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Adam

Personally, I think the set-down is much worse than using her foot to push the ball to the official after he tells her to get it. I didn't see it as a kick, to be honest.

If I passed on the first T, I don't see calling her for the soccer move unless there's some body language or facial expression I missed the first time I watched it.

I could see myself using the "go get the ball" tactic. When she pushed the ball with the foot, it's whack time.

[HokiePaul]

Originally Posted by Rich

I could see myself using the "go get the ball" tactic. When she pushed the ball with the foot, it's whack time.

I agree. The setting the ball down wasn't necessarily showing up the officials -- I saw it more with frustration and not in and of itself worthy of a T.

But using her feet to push the ball back ... that is showing up the official (after being warned) and I'm giving her a T right then.